Citron, C3 EGR wiring

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malcolm6969
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Citron, C3 EGR wiring

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Can anyone help me what the five wires on the EGR plug should be reading with the ignition on and the car not running or how to test them. Thank you
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Re: Citron, C3 EGR wiring

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I'll need your VIN to check the system you have. Please post your VIN in full without spaces - it will be automatically masked from public view after submitting your post & will only be visible to staff.
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Re: Citron, C3 EGR wiring

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VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff] firstly thank you for replying .it is a five wire conection and i would like to know what wires should read unconnected then connected or where i may get a service sheet for egr its a pierburg.its not just about bolting a knew one on i would like to test everything along the way if possible.ive watched many videos and loadsa googling but cannot find information i want.befrore removing the launch machine i used says egr valve open cycle ratio was -4.6 . when i striped egr off and took motor off motor would be jerky and when built up of the car but plugged in didnt seem to move the valve at all ,again i appreciate your help cheers
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Re: Citron, C3 EGR wiring

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DescriptionMinimum toleranceNominal valueMaximum tolerance
Electric motor supply voltage10,5 V13,5 V16 V
Motor resistance2,04 ohms2,40 ohms2,76 ohms
Supply voltage of the EGR valve sensor4,75 V5 V5,25 V
Range for signal in closed position, of the EGR valve position copy sensor0,95 V1 V1,05 V
Range for signal in open position, of the EGR valve position copy sensor3,95 V4 V4,05 V
Supply voltage of the by-pass sensor/Exhaust gas recirculation heat exchanger4,75 V5 V5,25 V
Range for signal in exchanger position, of the by-pass sensor/Exhaust gas recirculation heat exchangerAbove 0,5 V-Less than 1,5 v
Range for signal in by-pass position, of the by-pass sensor/Exhaust gas recirculation heat exchangerAbove 3,5 V-Less than 4,5 v
C3 A51 EGR.png
Connector: Exhaust gas recycling valve - "b" 5 way blue connector
Channel No.Allocation of the tracks of the connector
1Sensor + 5 V supply
2Engine fuel system -
3Earth
4Engine fuel system +
5Sensor signal
C3 A51 EGR heat x.png
By-pass connector/Exhaust gas recirculation heat exchanger - "c" 3 way blue connector
Channel No.Allocation of the tracks of the connector
1Signal
2Earth
3Power supply +5 V

Pinout
C3 A51 EGR Pinout.png
1297 is your EGR, powered from the Engine ECU 1320
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