CD Changer fonction on the WIPCOM3D / NG4 - Peugeot RCZ

[Franckfr]

Hi all

I'm desparatly would like to know if a 5 or 6 CD charger fonction is existing on this unit for my Peugoet RCZ. Does a connector materially exists at the very back of the NG4 ? Can it be activated by software ?

Many thanks in advance for those who will be able to help me

Franck.

[GiveMeABreak]

It was never offered as an option on the RCZ. This may have been down to the space it requires to fit on an RCZ. The NG4 is capable of taking a CD Changer, but in all honesty, it’s pretty pointless.

Why don’t you rip all your CDs to your PC as MP3 files and then copy them onto a normal SD card and plug that into the front of the NG4 in the SD card slot?

It’s a far better option and will easily take high capacity SD cards. I used a 32Gb SD card and had hundreds and hundreds of songs on there. Much better than a CD changer.

[Franckfr]

Hi Marc,

Many thanks for your answer

I know that my question can't sound pointless but the thing is that I don't really plan to add a CD changer to my Wipcom3D. I just wanted to know if it was capable of accepting it to add a bluetooth module on the CD changer connector and then, streaming music from my phone while keeping the wheel commands active. The Peugeot 3008 (1st gen) has been equiped with the same GPS system and I found mention of the CD changer option in the press release of it (as well as in the Wipcom3D manual for that very car) ; but nothing in the RCZ user guide.

Here is a picture of the NG4 backside. Would you be able to identify where the unit should normally be connected to the CD changer ? I guess that it has to be activated using a diagbox as well ?



Cheers !

Franck.

[GiveMeABreak]

The NG4 has telephone Bluetooth as you probably know, but will not support streaming music from any device. If you are planning on using a Yatour or similar to mimic the CD changer - bear in mind that will still be limited as it is only mimicking the CD changer, so you will have limitations to what you can do.

It's ok, I don't need the images of the rear, I have these already.

The connection you need is shown at 'E' below.

Within Connector 'E', there is a separate block 'C'. This contains the connections for the CD Changer. Below are the pin assignments.

Part "C": 12-way black connector (*)

Channel number	Allocation of channels of connector
1	Earth : CD changer
2	CAN Low : CD changer
3	Permanent + : CD changer
4	Right audio system: CD changer
5	Rear socket LH audio output signal
6	Channel not allocated
7	CAN High : CD changer
8	Earth : CD changer
9	Rear socket RH audio output signal
10	Left audio system: CD changer
11	Channel not allocated
12	Rear socket audio output earth
(*) Only with CD changer (Not available on hybrid vehicles)

Furthermore, you may still need to activate the function in the BSI using Diagbox to enable it. Bear in mind the CD changer connections shown above are CAN enabled - so it is possible that the Yatour or other device may not be compatible with the electronic architecture in the vehicle.

[Franckfr]

Hi Marc,

Many thanks for your accurate answer !

You understood it perfectly well : my plan consist in mimicking a CD changer to install a Phibu BT module behind my Wipcom3D. Two kinds of modules can be bought but the only one that keep most of all the steering wheel commands active (VOL +, VOL -, FF, FR) has to be pluged on the CD changer connector. However, this module won't be able to display any tracks listing or titles on screen (which I don't mind). Guess that I will have something like "CD changer #X" on screen instead ( ).

Here is the french webpage that sells the module I'm talking about. The module is sold as RD4 compliant so it will be CAN compatible.

https://www.phibu-electronics.com/nouve ... 2x34599710

According to your explanations, I'll have to use the 12 pins type #1 connector (wich is oriented) on the separate C block of the picture above.

Last step : activate the CD changer option using a Diagbox

I think that I'm correct here.

Btw, what are the other connectoers on the WIPCOM3D for ?

Cheers ! (and happy easter !).

Franck.

[GiveMeABreak]

The other connections are:

"a" Aerial FM2.
"b" Aerial TV2 (for Japan only).
"c" Aerial TV1 (for Japan only).
"d" MQS cable connector.
"e" 3-part connector.
"f" GPS aerial .
"g" Aerial FM1/AM.
"h" LVDS 2 cable connector.
"j" USB socket connector.
"k" LVDS 1 cable connector.

Yes the music you use will be in 6 folders just like a CD changer - each containing your music files.

Personally - I never streamed music - much preferring to copy over albums onto the SD card and play it perfectly using all the controls of the steering wheel. Best of luck with the project.

[Franckfr]

Hi Marc,

That sounds perfectly clear.
Thanks for all the informations you provide and shared. I'll let you know how thing goes on !

Franck.

[bolgarwow]

The other connections are:

"a" Aerial FM2.
"b" Aerial TV2 (for Japan only).
"c" Aerial TV1 (for Japan only).
"d" MQS cable connector.
"e" 3-part connector.
"f" GPS aerial .
"g" Aerial FM1/AM.
"h" LVDS 2 cable connector.
"j" USB socket connector.
"k" LVDS 1 cable connector.

Yes the music you use will be in 6 folders just like a CD changer - each containing your music files.

Personally - I never streamed music - much preferring to copy over albums onto the SD card and play it perfectly using all the controls of the steering wheel. Best of luck with the project.

Dear Mark,

Do you have a detailed plan for connector D? I guess that there some of them AUDIO L R and VIDEO

[GiveMeABreak]

Here you go:

Micro Quadlock System Conenctor 'd'

Channel number	Allocation of channels of connector
1	Audio signal + (Service module)
2	Audio signal - (Service module)
3	CAN High
4	Channel not allocated
5	Channel not allocated
6	Channel not allocated
7	Channel not allocated
8	Channel not allocated
9	VAN Low
10	Channel not allocated
11	Channel not allocated
12	Channel not allocated

[yflee83]

The NG4 has telephone Bluetooth as you probably know, but will not support streaming music from any device. If you are planning on using a Yatour or similar to mimic the CD changer - bear in mind that will still be limited as it is only mimicking the CD changer, so you will have limitations to what you can do.

It's ok, I don't need the images of the rear, I have these already.

The connection you need is shown at 'E' below.


Within Connector 'E', there is a separate block 'C'. This contains the connections for the CD Changer. Below are the pin assignments.



Part "C": 12-way black connector (*)

Channel number	Allocation of channels of connector
1	Earth : CD changer
2	CAN Low : CD changer
3	Permanent + : CD changer
4	Right audio system: CD changer
5	Rear socket LH audio output signal
6	Channel not allocated
7	CAN High : CD changer
8	Earth : CD changer
9	Rear socket RH audio output signal
10	Left audio system: CD changer
11	Channel not allocated
12	Rear socket audio output earth
(*) Only with CD changer (Not available on hybrid vehicles)

Furthermore, you may still need to activate the function in the BSI using Diagbox to enable it. Bear in mind the CD changer connections shown above are CAN enabled - so it is possible that the Yatour or other device may not be compatible with the electronic architecture in the vehicle.

Hi Marc,

Could you share the details for connector LVDS H & K

[GiveMeABreak]

Here you go.

"h" LVDS 2 cable connector (10-way)

Channel number	Allocation of channels of connector
1	Clock LVDS CLK1 +
2	Clock LVDS CLK1 -
3	Channel not allocated
4	Channel LVDS A0 +
5	Channel LVDS A0 -
6	Channel LVDS A2 +
7	Channel LVDS A2 -
8	Channel not allocated
9	Channel LVDS A1 +
10	Channel LVDS A1 -

"k" LVDS 1 cable connector (10-way)

Channel number	Allocation of channels of connector
1	Clock LVDS CLK1 +
2	Clock LVDS CLK1 -
3	Channel not allocated
4	Channel LVDS A0 +
5	Channel LVDS A0 -
6	Channel LVDS A2 +
7	Channel LVDS A2 -
8	Channel not allocated
9	Channel LVDS A1 +
10	Channel LVDS A1 -

[slibby]

Hello guys,

Sorry for my poor english, I'm French !

My NG4 on my Citroen C5 Exclusive 2009 reboot all the time. I think about remplace it with another model not NG4.

I have the pack-HiFi option with Philips amplifier, so I think it will be difficult to replace my NG4 by another thing. What do you think about it?

I don't know which interface the Philips amplifier is connected to on the NG4? Is the dialogue done via CAN bus?

[slibby]

other question, did you know where the Philips amplifier is in the car?

[Kees]

The amplifier is behind the clove box on the right side.
And yes he's connected by canbus, there's also an other problem when you use a different system, because the speaker connections from the NG4 to the amplifier is different, so then you get no sound from some speakers, because the amplifier multiplex the signals over all speakers.

[Kees]

Maybe you can check the NG4, first just press setup on the unit and see, what kind of info you see.
Second, press button 1,2,3 simultaneously and setup, or setup and then button 1,2,3, simultaneously, you get much more information about the unit, but also about the harddisk.
If everything is okay, except for the harddisk it's possible to restore the unit.
Greetings,
Kees.