Confessions of a Citroholic

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Tried, and failed to fit the new starter :evil:

I just cannot get on the top bolt, starter motor side. The wiring loom comes down close to the rear of the starter body, and this prevents getting in any of tools I have. It's a 6mm allen; I think maybe a long reach allen key on a socket might *just* slide in past the solenoid, but I don't have one. And there's not really enough room to get in there with 2 arms; well not unless you are like the aforementioned Orangutan :-D

For anyone silly enough to try here is how to get to the point where you can't get the bolt out!

Jack up NSF and remove the wheel and arch liner (6 or so plastic rivets). Remove the 13mm bolt you can see in front of the strut, and clean and plus gas the other 3 bolts sticking out (one is hiding behind the spring!).
Refit the wheel, and run it up on ramps
While the BSI goes to sleep, remove the front flexi exhaust section - just the two clamps (the rear one is awkward over the subframe).
Unbolt the vac reservoir (a wholly OTT 16mm bolt :lol: ) then lever if off the clip at the NS; this will give you access to the top to unplug the vac hose(s). I found this very difficult - possibly it would easier if you depleted the vac first as there was a hiss when I finally got it off. If you disconnect the one on the OS, then there is room to tuck the res out of the way to the other side without needing to remove the other hose.
Back to the top, remove the air hose, battery clamps and cover, then holding down clamp on the OS and remove the battery.
Remove the 4(!) 13mm bolts from the tray - one at the front, 3 into the wing (those you cleaned earlier!),and then the T27 bolt under the battery clamp and lift out the battery tray
Disconnect the earth point on the top of the gearbox.
If you now get a mirror and look under the thermostat just to the rear, you will see the top starter bolt - a 6mm allen. I managed to get on this with a short and long wobble extension, that allows the end to come up above the battery tray, with just enough room to get the ratchet on the end.
Back underneath, and there is a 13mm nut you need to remove - it's sort of above and forward of the solenoid; you can just see it, but it has to be undone by feel.
13mm and 8mm nuts to remove the wires from the starter.
You are now at the point I got to - where I cannot get a tool onto the top bolt.... #-o
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Re: Confessions of a Citroholic

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RichardW wrote:
16 Jul 2017, 14:16
Tried, and failed to fit the new starter :evil:

I just cannot get on the top bolt, starter motor side. The wiring loom comes down close to the rear of the starter body, and this prevents getting in any of tools I have. It's a 6mm allen; I think maybe a long reach allen key on a socket might *just* slide in past the solenoid, but I don't have one. And there's not really enough room to get in there with 2 arms; well not unless you are like the aforementioned Orangutan :-D
Oh dear. :(

Would one of these long reach ball head Allen keys work do you think ?
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The 6mm one is beside the ruler to give an idea of its length. I literally just bought this set from LIDL 2 days ago for the princely sum of £3.90. :mrgreen:

If you have a nearby LIDL nip in and see if they still have any, if not and you think it might help I can drop mine off!
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That's a damm nuisance Richard :evil:

I hope Simon's suggestion works... Finger's crossed...
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CitroJim wrote:
16 Jul 2017, 16:45
That's a damm nuisance Richard :evil:

I hope Simon's suggestion works... Finger's crossed...

And then he was never heard from again. :shock: :lol:
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Looks a handy set - Lidl on the way home from work, and one here, so good chance I can bag a set. Might need a socket drive one to crack it off, but the ball end probably useful for winding it it once it loose.

It's a completely crass design - another 1/2" up on the wiring loom and it would have been easy to get out!
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Ring end of a spanner over an allen key usually gives the extra force needed to crack off a stubborn nut.
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Mandrake wrote:
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Would one of these long reach ball head Allen keys work do you think ?

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I have a set of those now :P

I reckon the ball end bit might actually be a bit long, but it should turn easily once it is cracked, I can always cut the return part off.
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RichardW wrote:
18 Jul 2017, 08:38
I have a set of those now :P

I reckon the ball end bit might actually be a bit long, but it should turn easily once it is cracked, I can always cut the return part off.

Not sure what you mean by the ball end bit being too long ? or do you just mean the entire length ? Would you be able to attach the plastic handle to the end or would that foul something ? #-o

LIDL are turning out to be a great source of cheap tools - for £4 you really can't complain, and their battery charger was good too! :)
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Entire length - it may well come past the end of the starter and foul on something else. You can see the stunning amount of access on this video. The troublesome bolt is above the solenoid, but set back - no way you can see it without a mirror!

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I remembered we had seen some classics on the way down to the airport (went from Manchester). A series IIA towing a trailer; an early RangeRover - LPG converted so presumably a V8; a large group of MK1 and 2 Escorts on the other side - and then a few miles further on a couple on the hard shoulder!; and a hilariously overloaded MGB Roadster on German plates - they had loads on the boot, and then a rack over the roof which was loaded high!!

Amused by the fish counters in the supermarkets in Portugal - as well as the fresh fish they had quite a lot of frozen stuff, including whole fish. Turned out you could by a frozen whole fish and have it chopped into steaks - each of the counters had a band saw on it for this purpose!!
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Looks like the Picasso has a leak in the AC system - it was low a few weeks back I put some in, but yesterday it was 'singing' well when on and hardly making any cold, so I think it is almost flat. I'd have a look and see if it needs a new condenser if it wasn't raining. Again.
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I appear to have fixed the steamy headlight on the 307 - despite being sure I had refitted the rear cover when i put the HID lamps in (and checking it) I obviously hadn't, as since I had it off to fix the wiring (and made double sure I put it back properly), the lamp has dried out - and stayed that way despite a couple of days heavy rain. One (small) job ticked off!
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Excellent Richard :)
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RichardW wrote:
26 Jul 2017, 13:11
I appear to have fixed the steamy headlight on the 307 - despite being sure I had refitted the rear cover when i put the HID lamps in (and checking it) I obviously hadn't, as since I had it off to fix the wiring (and made double sure I put it back properly), the lamp has dried out - and stayed that way despite a couple of days heavy rain. One (small) job ticked off!

Funny you should mention steamy headlights... the Xantia left hand main headlight was all fogged up on the inside after a few weeks of not being driven, (and plenty of rain of course!) but it seemed to clear out after our trip up north... :?
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26 Jul 2017, 16:07
Funny you should mention steamy headlights... the Xantia left hand main headlight was all fogged up on the inside after a few weeks of not being driven, (and plenty of rain of course!) but it seemed to clear out after our trip up north... :?


You'd be amazed at how hot a Xantia headlight gets in use... I found out when using one as a dummy load when testing batter charger I repaired...

The heat should rapidly demist them...