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Zelandeth wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 00:28 Had a brief it turned out totally unnecessary panic this afternoon when I came back out of a shop to find a large puddle of very rusty coolant under the VP.
I feel your anxiety here Zel... I always look where any of my cars have been parked without fail... And had a few false alarms like yours. Only once recently has it been a genuine leak from one of my own...

Pleased the VDP was fully innocent on this occasion :)

It's how I spotted a problem with SIL's Audi last week!
Zelandeth wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 00:28 Bloomin' needy modern cars!
Quite :roll: :lol:
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CitroJim wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 05:47
Zelandeth wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 00:28 Had a brief it turned out totally unnecessary panic this afternoon when I came back out of a shop to find a large puddle of very rusty coolant under the VP.
I feel your anxiety here Zel... I always look where any of my cars have been parked without fail... And had a few false alarms like yours. Only once recently has it been a genuine leak from one of my own...

Pleased the VDP was fully innocent on this occasion :)

It's how I spotted a problem with SIL's Audi last week!
Zelandeth wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 00:28 Bloomin' needy modern cars!
Quite :roll: :lol:
Probably the best moment for that I can think of was a year or two back when I'd got snarled up in in one of the queues which have a tendency to build up at the Stoney roundabout on the A5 when I caught that unmistakable whiff of far too hot coolant after we'd been crawling for a few minutes. It took a solid thirty seconds of my brain going "Oh my god, is that me?" before the penny dropped and my conscious brain caught up with the fact that I was in the Invacar - with an air cooled engine. I'm really not the brightest crayon in the box sometimes...
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The coolant puddle was the subject of a little prank my mate Bob played on a 'know it all' chap who worked on the external side of BT back in the 70s. He used to garage his van at Radlett exchange where Bob worked and hence leave his car there during the workiing day.

He was forever going on about how good Volkswagons were and finally he backed himself and bought a new Golf. After he had owned it for a couple of weeks, and gone on about it relentlessly every lunchtime, Bob decided it was time to shut him up. He began one day after lunch when the chap had gone out on his afternoon jobs, and poured half a cup of water on the floor under the Golf's radiator.

Bob repeated that daily, a bit more each time, as the chap hadn't noticed until finally one Friday afternoon he came into the exchange at the end of the day to get water to top up his car which he had spotted appeared to have a leak! He explained that he had noticed a leak all week but kept forgetting to investigate. Bob and his cohorts, all in on the joke, helpfully went out to the car park to allegedly to assist but really to see his face when he opened the rad cap to find a correct level. Apparently it was a picture as it dawned on him that he'd been had! :-D
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Zelandeth wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 23:02It took a solid thirty seconds of my brain going "Oh my god, is that me?" before the penny dropped and my conscious brain caught up with the fact that I was in the Invacar - with an air cooled engine. I'm really not the brightest crayon in the box sometimes...
That did make me giggle Zel :lol:
mickthemaverick wrote: 03 Apr 2025, 03:45 The coolant puddle was the subject of a little prank my mate Bob played on a 'know it all' chap who worked on the external side of BT back in the 70s.
And so did that Mick :lol:
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Finally got around to dealing with the small mountain of cardboard which we had ended up with in the conservatory. A lot of this originated from the engine and associated bits for the Trabant as there was a LOT of packaging involved in that. Plus we struggle with bin capacity for paper and cardboard at the best of times. That combined with a few kitchen appliances recently being bought meant it had just snowballed a bit.

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The big boxes there are all full of collapsed other boxes and packing materials as well.

Obviously it wasn't just cardboard I took with me, there were a bunch of old batteries, a couple of dead power supplies, some dead light bulbs and such as well. While at the recycling centre I found something downright unexpected in the lamp bin. Even better, there was nobody on that side of the yard, so it got liberated.

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Yes, that is a CO2 laser tube.

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I realise it's most likely dead, and I'm about 20kV short of having anything on hand to run it with anyway. Nevertheless it's still a fascinating bit of glassware to take a look at.

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Not something I've ever had a chance to look at in person before. I'll give it a clean at the weekend and get some better close up photos when I can.
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I have the same problem with cardboard but I did manage to get it picked up by the regular recycle truck on Thursday, put it all in a pile beside my blue bag and the lads chucked it all on.
Now I have a pile of new 'old stock' parts and some 'saved' used bits to shift to clear what's left of my motor trade days from my workshop. :(
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Gibbo2286 wrote: 05 Apr 2025, 09:35 I have the same problem with cardboard but I did manage to get it picked up by the regular recycle truck on Thursday, put it all in a pile beside my blue bag and the lads chucked it all on.
Now I have a pile of new 'old stock' parts and some 'saved' used bits to shift to clear what's left of my motor trade days from my workshop. :(
Problem with our lot is that if it's not in the 3/4 size wheeled bin *and the lid fully closed* they won't even think about touching it. If the lid isn't fully closed they will also ignore it. Which is incredibly annoying. Especially as our recycling centres all still require bookings - and the nearest one in particular regularly causes me rage as they allow you to book appointments long after the guys running it have decided to lock up and go home for the day.

Only one of the sites takes trade waste - and it's the one which has the biggest limitations on what can be deposited - so if you're in the trade in MK and want to get rid of asbestos for example you're out of luck.

For some reason the council seem completely baffled as to why the area has a chronic fly tipping problem...
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Ours a very good and always have been. As long as cardboard is flattened and bound with string to stop it blowing down the street they will take it. Several bins are overfilled and they still take them. They will have a look to see if inappropriate rubbish is in the bin and refuse to take it if there is.

I often put mine for my neighbour to use, I only need it emptied ever eight weeks and she has lots of crap.
I take several bins in too, neighbours and a disabled bloke, another neighbour puts them out at 05:30 when he goes to work.
Dragged mine in yesterday and was appalled at how dirty and stinky it was, got the hose and Stardrops and flushed/scrubbed it inside and out then realised I had net door's and she had mine.
I never put stinky wast in any of the bins, only have veg peelings and they go in the compost bin. Should have known better.
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Generally been pretty quiet over the last week or so here. Have found myself pretty much exclusively using the VP for local running around.

Couple of hundred miles have been done since the major oil leaks were sorted and the oil was last topped up. Still showing max on the stick (ignore it reading a bit high - that's mainly because of the slope of our drive).

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She definitely is still leaking a bit from the flywheel side of the engine, but it's reduced enough that it's not actually using an appreciable amount, just marking it's territory a bit when you park up. That's waaaay beyond any tinkering I'm getting involved in though. Changing a crank seal on that end of an A series is a non trivial task - especially on the auto as I'm pretty sure there's a special puller needed to remove the torque converter.

Ticked over 83K on the clock yesterday.

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I'm very much having to sit on my hands to not pull the speedometer out to lube up the trip/odometer gear train - that's 90% likely to be responsible for the speedometer essentially showing a +/- 20mph moving average at any moment. I haven't looked at how much of a pain it would be to get out to work on, as I know if I do that I'll end up doing it. Then I'll also end up trying to hunt down all the rattles and buzzes behind the dash, and that way lays madness.

Mostly though I've just been enjoying it.

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Something I don't think I'd mentioned before as one of my favourite things about the car (aside from the suspension's ability to smooth out the horrendous roads around MK) is the view out over the wings and bonnet.

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That really doesn't get old.

It really is quite a cheerful little car and I definitely could see me with an ADO16 in the future one day. I really can see why they were so popular cars in their time. Feel kind of bad for having so completely overlooked them until now.

Today however the Volvo was back on duty as I had to make a run southwards to go and grab a little stash of parts. This involved entirely too much of the M25, but was otherwise uneventful and definitely worth it.

The gent in question is mainly into the Steyr-Puch side of things, but had ended up with a few Invacar bits and pieces, and having stumbled across my website reached out to see if I wanted to offer these bits a home.

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Big thanks to them if they're reading this as there's some quite useful stuff in there. Exhaust has some surface rust from storage but appears absolutely sound. The guy has said he'll keep an eye out for any more bits that might surface in the future.

The thing I'm most interested in is the carb. The one I have on TPA currently has quite a lot of wear in the throttle shaft, and even though it generally runs the engine well I know it's a problem waiting to happen at some point. This one seems to be in far better shape, so hopefully with a good service will be ready to go.

The coil is in far better shape than mine too which honestly looks like it was pulled off the bottom of the ocean. I'll be grabbing the support rod which sits between the intake manifold and air cleaner as well as I've currently got a home made one there.
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Result on the Invacar bits Zel :)

Delighted the VDP is giving so much pleasure! And yes, they all leak at their crank end and indeed, it's a very non-trivial job...

After the positive experience with your oil changing machine I now have mine on order :)

This time last week I spotted this Series 1 Metro VDP at Anglia Car Auctions 8-)
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I could love that car, especially as it's an early one :)
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Today the time came to drop the VP back off with its owner and collect the Trabant.

I've very much enjoyed my time with the VP and on the strength of that I could absolutely see me owning one in the future.

The reason the Trabant was away was to have this crispy bit of sill looked at.

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As is always the case what you can see is only the tip of the iceberg, and this was no exception as we fully expected. Some photos were provided while the work was underway.

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Some grot was also spotted on the front cross member as well - including going behind the subframe mounting reinforcement plates. This definitely isn't ideal given that basically the whole front of the car is hanging off these two points.

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Let the chopping commence.

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This also revealed a historic repair on the wheel tub - which most likely explains why this corner seemed so much worse than the rest of the car.

Some nice replacement panels were fabricated.

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Then was zapped in.

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Attention was then moved to the cross member. This was done in two halves to deal with each subframe mounting point.

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Then same on the other side.

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Followed by some underbody sealant.

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Just a shame that nobody besides me and the MOT tester will ever see it!

There are a few other areas which will want further attention in the future, but all well clear of prescribed areas and nothing that I'm imminently concerned about. However I knew this was seriously important structurally (especially given that basically the whole front of the car hangs off those two big mounting points to the cross member) so needed sorting sooner than later.

While I have very much enjoyed my time with the VP, I am very happy to have this little buzz box back.

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I do need to do a bit of clean up where the VP was parked prior to dealing with the oil leak issues...

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Finally did get the car transferred over to the historic tax class yesterday and logged as MOT exempt (despite that, it's still going in for a test next week) as I ran into issues last time I attempted to do that. The MOT exemption I'm not particularly worried about other than it making the logistics of getting it back a bit simpler, but I'll definitely take the £18 or whatever it is a month saving on road tax costs.

With around 100 miles covered since I last tweaked the carb, looking at the plugs I think I'm maybe a little too far on the rich side now.

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Which is good - I was aiming to go a bit too far that way then back off a notch on the slide setting in the carb to find what's probably the safest setting for the engine. With two strokes being what they are I'd always rather err on the side of rich than lean. A fouled plug is far easier to deal with than a melted piston.

Shortly after the engine swap was done I found this crack on the front exhaust section.

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This was looked at while the car was being worked on, but was deemed too far gone to do anything with - pretty much as I expected given that the pipe was paper thin around that join. I did speak to a couple of places locally about having a system made up in stainless but they really weren't interested. Did consider just buying the middle section that's gone as the rest of the system does still have at least a bit of life left in it yet - but instead just pushed the button on a new 38mm system. Which should help get the most out of the better carb and overbore on the engine itself. I also don't like messing with exhaust systems at the best of times so don't want to be replacing one pipe now and having another bit go six months or a year down the line - hopefully this will be something that won't need to be touched for a good few years once it's all on there. Given we've got a fair few uprated parts on this car, it just seems a bit silly not to add the last bit to get the most out of everything. 38mm doesn't *sound* like a big exhaust bore - but the stock one is 35mm...This is a really small engine! Should make a noticeable difference at the top end I expect - apparently the baffling arrangement in the heat exchanger/expansion box up front is quite different to the stock one as well so flows considerably better.

Really happy to have the car back. This is always one of those areas where there's going to be a huge amount of placebo effect, but it seems to *feel* more solid and planted on the road. I guess this could have made a noticeable difference though given that we found that the rot had got into areas next to the subframe mounts off which the whole engine and front suspension setup is hanging - wouldn't take much movement there to be perceptible from the driver's seat. I'm pretty sure though it's entirely in my head and just knowing that there's not a big hole in structural areas any more is making my brain think the car feels more solid.
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That's a lovely bit of welding on the Trabby Zel :D Very neat!

Yep, she's a bit rich but as you know, always best to run that breed of stroker on the slightly rich side...
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CitroJim wrote: 17 Apr 2025, 05:54 That's a lovely bit of welding on the Trabby Zel :D Very neat!

Yep, she's a bit rich but as you know, always best to run that breed of stroker on the slightly rich side...
When I was doing that sort of work back in the 1950s MIG and TIG welders hadn't arrived on scene, similar work done on mono-constructed Hillman Minxes (they rotted away within 18 months from new) all done with an oxy-acetylene gas welder, no ready made panels, all metal cut out with tin shears.
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CitroJim wrote: 17 Apr 2025, 05:54 That's a lovely bit of welding on the Trabby Zel :D Very neat!

Yep, she's a bit rich but as you know, always best to run that breed of stroker on the slightly rich side...
Camera has made it look a bit darker than it is in reality, but do you think you'd leave it there or knock it back one notch on the needle? I ask you as you're the one person I know who has a decent amount of two stroke experience. Currently running on the middle one of the five available options.
Gibbo2286 wrote: 17 Apr 2025, 11:13 When I was doing that sort of work back in the 1950s MIG and TIG welders hadn't arrived on scene, similar work done on mono-constructed Hillman Minxes (they rotted away within 18 months from new) all done with an oxy-acetylene gas welder, no ready made panels, all metal cut out with tin shears.
I can't even begin to imagine how delicate an operation trying to weld material as thin as that with gas. The line between hot enough and burning bigger holes in things than you were trying to fix must have been almost invisibly fine.
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Zelandeth wrote: 17 Apr 2025, 12:41
Gibbo2286 wrote: 17 Apr 2025, 11:13 When I was doing that sort of work back in the 1950s MIG and TIG welders hadn't arrived on scene, similar work done on mono-constructed Hillman Minxes (they rotted away within 18 months from new) all done with an oxy-acetylene gas welder, no ready made panels, all metal cut out with tin shears.
I can't even begin to imagine how delicate an operation trying to weld material as thin as that with gas. The line between hot enough and burning bigger holes in things than you were trying to fix must have been almost invisibly fine.
......and so was invented very very thick underseal. Covers up a multitude of problems :lol: