Zel's Fleet Blog - BX, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D & 230TE, AC Model 70.

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Another excellent blog Zel :D Keep 'em coming, I'm enjoying them thoroughly!

As for the radio, alignment should not be necessary if you don't disturb anything resonant in the RF and IF sections barring swapping out all the leaky old waxies...

In all my 50-odd years of vintage wireless engineering I've found the need to realign normal domestic/automotive stuff very rarely. If it ain't broke, then don't fix it... The obsession I see on the vintage wireless forums with alignment makes me cringe...

Keep up the good work :)
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Hmm...pulled in to the pharmacy car park today to pick some things up and noted I'd left a fluid trail behind me while parking. Something dripping at quite a rate put towards the rear of the engine. Was dripping off the bell housing.

Not oily, no noticeable odour to it so my only guess would be coolant. Though now I think about it I'd have expected that to be steaming...

There are only two coolant lines at the rear of the engine bay and I couldn't see any evidence of leakage from them.

Got home...nothing...and no visible drop of the coolant level. Cue confusion.

Investigation had to be halted there as a thunderstorm arrived.

I'm puzzled!

One thought would have been rain water getting trapped somewhere and running out - but where would have resulted in it dripping from there I've no idea.
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I have no doubt you will solve the puzzle. I hear you liked that Fujitsu keyboard. I got it in the late 90s, but it was not used in over ten years. I hope it was not too grubby?
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Just caught up on lots of interesting goings on. Like the "had it so long I can't recall the original function" = new coolant pipe, from your odds and sods pile :) makes me happy when stuff is able to be repurposed!

Mystery bolt under the rear valance, obviously not big enough to hold actual towbar on - but there's a towing power socket bracket in your mystery box of stuff, maybe the two are linked?

Oh, and the Cobra's plate might be a personal one anyway - one of these:
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Zelandeth wrote: 12 Jun 2023, 18:08 Hmm...pulled in to the pharmacy car park today to pick some things up and noted I'd left a fluid trail behind me while parking. Something dripping at quite a rate put towards the rear of the engine. Was dripping off the bell housing.
She must have been sweating in the heat Zel ;)

Maybe a leak from the screenwash system?
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Might be a bit too obvious but could it be the aircon drain?
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Back of the engine........core plug maybe.
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myglaren wrote: 13 Jun 2023, 09:44 Might be a bit too obvious but could it be the aircon drain?
I think she has the same aircon system as my cars Steve... Opening windows!
Gibbo2286 wrote: 13 Jun 2023, 09:48 Back of the engine........core plug maybe.
Yep, a very good call Eric...
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The drip made a reappearance today.



Which a bit of examination revealed to be coolant. The oil was already in the drain pan.

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Which prompted me to do some more digging. I could tell that it was running down the rear right hand side of the engine. The initial suggestion of a core plug issue did sound sensible, though a bit of investigation showed wet areas above there.

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Which I'd assumed was oily when I'd seen it before... waiting half an hour for it to dry off though suggested otherwise.

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The staining actually suggesting that there's been seepage going on in this area for some considerable time. I guess this is what I get for fixing the rest of the cooling system!

Didn't take long to track down where it's coming from.



Water dripping off the edge of the cylinder head. That will be seeping out of the seam between the head and block then. There are no lines that attach to the head, so unless there's a water passage between the head and inlet manifold, which I don't think there is...so it's either a stuffed head gasket or issue with the head itself.

I mean, the head was going to need to come off sooner or later to get this small but critical and very perished O-ring replaced.

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Though I wouldn't have minded it waiting a while! Especially as it only just had an oil change. Despite this leak the coolant level barely dropped - which is probably simply because there are 15 litres of coolant in it, so it takes a pretty large amount to be visible as a drop.

On the plus side, it's not a massive job to pull the head on this engine thanks to the lack of any overhead cam nonsense.

The van went back into MOTest this morning with the intention of them addressing the brake imbalance issue it failed the test on last week. Then about an hour and a half later got a phone call advising me that the caliper is partly seized and will need to be replaced. However "I might be able to strip it down and free it off." Yes...that's exactly what I was paying you to do. You know with your four post lift and fully stocked workshop. Kind of hacked off about that. I really dislike working on that vehicle on the jack, and I'm struggling enough for time and energy right now so really wanted to just have someone fix that. I may just pull both calipers (no sense in just doing one and the other then acting up) and send them off to Big Redd to be overhauled. I think the calipers are relatively easy to remove at least.

So I currently have two out of five cars fully working.

[] Renault - Waiting on gear shift bushing (praying I've ordered the right one this time).
[] Van - Awaiting MOT due to aforementioned brake balance issue.
[] Rover - Not insubstantial coolant leak from head gasket.

[] Invacar - Working.
[] Caddy - Working.

Those are my least favourite ones in hot weather though...Caddy is a giant greenhouse and currently doesn't have working AC (had two people fail to turn up to fit the new compressor for me last year). The Invacar is a bit less of a greenhouse, but has no forced air ventilation and the windows don't open massively far...the bulkhead gets rather warm too.
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Not the best of reading on both vehicles Zel and sorry to hear both have issues... Fingers crossed all will be good soon...

Calipers: how much is a new one against buggering about with trying to sort out the old one? With my AX, calipers from Autodoc were a surprisingly good price.

I know what you mean about just wanting it done, especially given your current situation...

Against that, we are enjoying the most ideal weather for a Rover head job.
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A dose of this might give you a temporary or even a long term fix for your drips.
https://www.holtsauto.com/holts/products/wondarweld/
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Or the Forte 'Cooling System Stop Leak' which doesn't clog radiators like the Barrs stuff does.
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I use K-Seal for that type of weep. The MX3's seam sealed fine since I put it in last month!!:

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Let's try the update I was writing yesterday evening but managed to lose when my fat fingers closed the wrong tab on my phone. At an actual computer now so that shouldn't be an issue at least!

Something I reckon may at least be worth checking before I start pulling the top end apart on the Rover will be to ensure that the head bolts are all properly torqued to spec. The numbers given in the manual aren't massively high and based on how clean things were when I changed the inlet valve cover gasket I reckon work has been done on the head relatively recently. The manual does specify that the head bolt torque should be re-checked after 100 miles. I've no idea if that was ever done. The head gasket on these is a single piece of pressed metal rather than the composite sandwich more commonly seen on more modern cars. Helpfully I do have one of those in stock already, as the whole kit was a far more sensibly priced means of getting the inlet valve cover gasket than buying it separate.

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A whole 50 lb/ft for the larger and 30 lb/ft for the smaller bolts.

Figure it has to be worth checking at least before I go tearing things apart.

Under the heading of the occasional distractions this thread is also known for we've got a bit of mutant electronics nonsense going on. For the last three years or so I've had a tablet which had become obsolete to the point of being unusably slow on the wall in here running as a digital photo frame. This failed a couple of weeks ago, actually with a fault in the display panel itself this time so I'm declaring it dead. I think I've had it apart half a dozen times to do various fixes so far.

There are another couple of computers in the immediate vicinity, a Raspberyy Pi and the small form factor PC that my web server will soon be moving over to when I get off my lazy behind and get it configured properly - mainly because it uses less than half the power of the current machine. Either of these seem like fair game to run a basic slide show. Just leaves me needing to provide a display device. Now I could just grab an older monitor (I have no shortage of them!) and hang it on the wall where the tablet used to be, or pick up a 7" or so LCD/LED display panel to do the job...However that's not very *me* is it...Especially not when for less than £20 delivered I could get hold of one of these contraptions.

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For those who don't immediately recognise what the heck that is, it's a tiny (roughly 4") CRT based monochrome composite monitor. These things were manufactured in their millions as service parts for video intercom systems - based on the number of surplus sellers selling them for peanuts and that this one has 2014 date codes on it, made in far larger numbers than ever turned out to be required. The distinctly odd looking reverse view CRT design I believe was originally a Sony invention - they definitely were the ones who used it in greatest numbers in consumer products anyway in the early Sony Watchman portable TVs.

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Sinclair of course also used one in their second generation of their Microvision television as well, though that's largely an unknown device outside the UK.

It's an odd design, with the electron gun aimed at an angled target rather than directly at the back of a (relatively) perpendicular screen. You actually view the "back" of the screen, through the (obviously invisible) electron beam. While the geometry of this design obviously involves some serious compromises I have to admit to having been really surprised at how decent a picture you can actually get displayed on one of these displays with a bit of patience setting it up right. Probably the biggest complaint overall on these units is simply the standard one levelled at any inexpensive black and white display or TV, and that's a lack of any DC restoration. Plus the fact that you're looking straight at a completely white phosphor layer the contrast struggles in bright light, a polarising anti-glare filter fitted in front of the display would vastly improve that issue.

The image on this one would benefit from the scan coils being rotated clockwise a touch, but for the intended application it will do absolutely fine as is I think.

Obviously these units are intended for installation into an existing system, but they're not difficult to set up. There are ten connections in total to the unit - some of these come with flying leads already plugged into the headers on the PCB, some don't. That just seems to be completely luck of the draw. The connections to these on the lower one are 12V DC power on the right hand two connectors (+ on the right, ground towards the centre), and composite video on the left hand two - signal on the left, ground towards the centre. The six terminals on the upper connector are for the brightness and contrast controls. The upper three pins needing to be hooked to a 50K potentiometer for the brightness, and the lower three to a 1K potentiometer for the contrast. The exact value of these isn't all that critical I found as there's a good range of adjustment available on the screen and sub-brightness controls on the PCB to fine tune it.

The spec sheets say that this will run on 12-15V, though it uses a linear voltage regulator set to 12V, and anywhere far north of 12V this gets roasting hot very quickly - so user beware if you're feeding it for example from an unregulated supply like a transformer where the output voltage is likely to actually be a fair bit higher than the nominal 12V on the data plate. I originally had this running on such a transformer (rated 12VA), and the heatsink ended up too hot to touch within about 15 minutes. A check with the meter showed the supply voltage was sitting just over 14V - switching that out for a regulated switch mode supply which actually outputs the 12V it says it does, and it runs at a far more sensible temperature. While the power rating on the side of the unit says 4.8W, that seems to be a worst case scenario as my measurements show it's actually drawing barely 2W.

Anyone who has ever tried will tell you that trying to get a decent photograph of an operating CRT is an absolute nightmare. This one is no exception. It's a good deal sharper in person, I can clearly make out the registration number on both of the vehicles in this photo in person.

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Proof of concept in place.

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I need to do a bit of cable management and stuff the VGA to composite adapter out of sight, but you get the idea. Oh, and straighten up the control box with the brightness/contrast controls on it. I'll probably add a power switch to that too. That box was generously donated by a now dead HDMI to composite adapter which wasted me several hours of time by losing interest in providing a sync signal and sending my chasing my tail wondering why I couldn't get a different display to play ball. My revenge was gutting it and using its case for a completely different purpose.

Would it have been more sensible to just use a little generic LCD or OLED display? Yes, definitely. However this is far more pleasingly oddball, and definitely is a talking point in itself.

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Hell Razor5543 wrote: 12 Jun 2023, 18:38 I have no doubt you will solve the puzzle. I hear you liked that Fujitsu keyboard. I got it in the late 90s, but it was not used in over ten years. I hope it was not too grubby?
Completely forgot to reply to this - yes got it and it is definitely very much appreciated. Not too grubby at all, will want a good clean as is pretty standard for any one that arrives here but it's probably the cleanest one I've had arrive here in the last ten years or so...
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A most interesting read Zel :D So, did your head re-torquing help with the leaks?

Given the gasket type it may be wise to have a light slim done and check the block deck is nice and true if you find you need to do the head gasket....
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