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Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - BX, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D & 230TE, AC Model 70.

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CitroJim wrote: 28 Apr 2023, 17:23 That's a lovely looking camera Zel :D I'll be really interested to see the quality of photos it can produce. Excellent ones I'm thinking...

Do you have a period light meter to go with it?
My gut feeling is that it will take some pretty decent images. If the overall impression of quality extends to the glass anyway - as that's obviously the important bit!

I do indeed have an appropriate light meter.

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Equally importantly, I know how to read it. Which I imagine confuses a lot of people when they first encounter one. The Konica has a duff internal meter so it's been a useful tool for a few years. Plus this one obviously also lacks one.

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That Ensign is one year older than the Kodak would you believe? That one I can vouch for being able to take quite outstanding photos with a bit of patience setting things up.

I'll be picking some film up tomorrow so we can get a test roll through the Kodak over the next few weeks.

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A new old computer keyboard arrived today. It was precisely as disgusting as I had expected from the photos in the listing.

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Suffice to say as soon as I'd done a very quick "do all the keys work?" test it was immediately pulled apart for cleaning.

Fun fact: Keyboards are gross.

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Especially 33 year old ones which likely have never been cleaned.

Mechanical keyboards (this is technically a mechanically actuated membrane setup) were expensive...and it's not hard to see why. Aside from being attached to a metal backplate you could hang a house off of, each individual key consists of a key cap, slider, spring, plunger then the rubber dome sheet and finally the membrane with the actual contacts on.

A large portion of those components I *definitely* didn't manage to decant all over the desk in a moment of mission-focused tunnel-vision stupidity. I'm also definitely not still short one spring...

It looks rather healthier now back together.

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To say that it's visually "highly reminiscent" of the IBM Model M would be rather an understatement, aside from it having the rather unusual setup of the status LEDs in the keys rather than in the top corner.

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Fancy metal name plate where you'd normally expect the status LEDs to be.

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Yes, I know I put the keycaps for the print screen/break keys back on backwards. I noticed and fixed that about 30 seconds after taking that photo.

It feels well made. It's easily as heavy as the IBM board sitting next to it. It's quite pleasant to type on. Far lighter key action than the Model M, and while still distinctly "clicky" is several orders of magnitude quieter. Which honestly isn't a bad thing...it's nice to type on, but it is a bit ridiculously noisy!

The other job I've been picking away at today when I've had a spare minute here and there has been updating the website. It turns out that the move to HTTPS has broken my visitor tracker. Easily fixed - and has been so for several years. However it requires me to replace the code...on every single page. All 184 of them. That's going to take a bit of time! Reckon I'm about a third of the way through it. If I was smarter I could probably write some script to do this automatically for me, but with my knowledge level that would probably take just as long as doing the job manually.

I'll get everything done on the local mirror before pushing it through to the live version - which is *still* running on one of the old FCF servers would you believe...
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I love those old 'clicky' keyboards Zel, especially the proper IBM ones :D

So satisfying to type on!
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I think that Tandy keyboard is a re-branded Fujitsu keyboard. I have a Fujitsu keyboard somewhere, and it is incredibly solidly built, and highly tactile when typing. The computer magazine 'PC Pro' loved it, and whenever they received a system for testing they would praise the keyboard if it was the Fujitsu model.

When I built my Mum her first PC I told her to find a keyboard she liked and could get on with (as she can touch-type). She didn't find one until she tried mine (which was a Fujitsu). As she tried it out her typing speed increased (as she grew confident with the keyboard). Her last line of type was "One day my prince will come. Heaven help the poor b4st4rd!". She asked if it was possible to get this keyboard. I told her I wasn't sure, to which she responded that I would then have to get a replacement keyboard, as she would have this one. Fortunately they were still available (but at £30, when a normal keyboard was around £10).
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Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - BX, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D & 230TE, AC Model 70.

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Hell Razor5543 wrote: 29 Apr 2023, 05:54 I think that Tandy keyboard is a re-branded Fujitsu keyboard. I have a Fujitsu keyboard somewhere, and it is incredibly solidly built, and highly tactile when typing. The computer magazine 'PC Pro' loved it, and whenever they received a system for testing they would praise the keyboard if it was the Fujitsu model.

When I built my Mum her first PC I told her to find a keyboard she liked and could get on with (as she can touch-type). She didn't find one until she tried mine (which was a Fujitsu). As she tried it out her typing speed increased (as she grew confident with the keyboard). Her last line of type was "One day my prince will come. Heaven help the poor b4st4rd!". She asked if it was possible to get this keyboard. I told her I wasn't sure, to which she responded that I would then have to get a replacement keyboard, as she would have this one. Fortunately they were still available (but at £30, when a normal keyboard was around £10).
I do believe you're correct, it is indeed made by Fujitsu.

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"Congratulations you won...."

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Oops.

Completely forgot I'd bid on that.

Definitely a restoration project this one...but given what they seem to go for in good shape it's definitely the only way I was going to get my hands on one.

Given my penchant for portable computers and having wanted a bit of classic IBM gear for a while now this seemed a good way to combine both of those things. At least IBM technical documentation is generally pretty good, which I get the feeling I may well be needing given this one is a bit of a shed...
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Been a little while since I had time to do a proper update.

First up is a techy update. I launched a collection mission which started at stupid o'clock heading over to Cambridge to pick this thing up.

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The lesser spotted IBM sewing machine as one of my family commented.

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Which for those not in the know, no is not a sewing machine. This is an IBM PS/2 P70. Which is basically a PS/2 Model 70 crammed into a portable form factor. A machine which usually sits well, well out of my price range - with working examples going for north of £500. So I did the obvious thing and found a non working one locally for £125 instead. Which I figured was effectively £100 as I was saving about £30 on shipping.

This is otherwise known as "it was 4am, I couldn't sleep so wound up browsing eBay."

While it's externally complete and surprisingly free of physical damage, it was filthy. How can people use keyboards in this state? These keys should be bright white.

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Needless to say that will be getting a good old scrub. As will the whole machine.

It never really instills confidence when you can see rust before you even take any covers off.

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With the rear cover removed there was very clear evidence of this having been stored somewhere really damp for a long while. Plus lots of grime.

The immediate impression I got at this point was "Mmm...genuine barn find."

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The motherboard actually looks fine. Grubby but there's no corrosion of any note actually on the motherboard I can see. Unlike many 386 era machines thankfully the CMOS battery is external and a primary lithium rather than Nicad actually on the board which usually leak. It's also just a standard type commonly used in cameras so I even have one in stock!

While the motherboard has seemingly escaped the corrosion, not everything else has been so lucky. Especially this poor hard drive.

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That white gunk that looks kind of like mould? That's aluminium oxide. I have serious doubts about this drive coming back around. Which is something of a headache.

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These drives are kind of an oddball. For a start, they're natively ESDI rather than anything commonplace like IDE or SCSI. However it's actually even worse than that - as the controller is physically attached to the drive, and it hooks directly up to the MCA bus on the motherboard. A system that IBM called Direct Bus Attachment (DBA). Which means finding a replacement will not be a five minute on eBay job. The most practical solution most likely would be to get a SCSI expansion card for one of the MCA slots and fit a SCSI drive.

That's getting a bit ahead of ourselves though - no point in worrying about a replacement hard drive if the rest of the system is a doorstop.

The seller had apparently tried to power it up, and had no life aside from the power supply fan.

Before I did anything I had to take it outside and attack it with the air line. The amount of finely atomised rust that I'm still brushing off my desk defies belief. It's not clean, but is a lot better.

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Given I couldn't see any obvious issues and as I knew it had been powered up recently I figured that just plugging it in and checking our voltages was a good start.

Passed the first test: Didn't trip the RCD. Also the second test: Didn't blow up.

We had a working power supply fan, sensible voltages, the keyboard lights blinked when powered up, a working power light, and the hard disk did actually spin up. It also made some somewhat peculiar noises...but I don't know these drives well enough to have any idea what noises are normal. However nothing really useful. Zip on the display, either internal or external.

After a significant period of well...vaguely systematically poking, prodding, wiggling and cleaning connections we had progress, in the form of a beep code. Long, short, short. Which decodes to the primary display adapter being unable to start - which would indeed explain why we had nothing on the screen, assuming the plasma even worked - though I know the panel well enough to know it won't power up unless it sees a video signal. Helpfully it's exactly the same panel as Toshiba used on the T5200.

Some further fiddling around happened, then I noticed a lack of beeping, so looked at the screen.

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Which on a reboot progressed to a memory test, showing 8 meg present - the maximum this could be specified with.

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Then a 163 and 164 error listed (configuration options not set - expected with a 30+ year old battery). Then it did something I didn't expect - rather than complaining about a missing operating system, it booted into a BASIC prompt.

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I'd forgotten some IBM machines had this built into ROM.

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If these systems loose their BIOS configuration settings, they need to be booted from a disk with the configuration utility on - which IBM call the Reference Disk. Which brings us to the first thing I've found which definitely isn't working - the floppy drive. It seeks fine, but doesn't seem to be interested in actually reading data. It hunts a couple of times before just failing.

The drives in these things are reputed to be hugely unreliable - aside from being mounted vertically and having no slot door so they fill up with crud, they also have capacitor leakage issues. Of *course* these drives are non standard, because IBM. They have a combined power and data connection so I can't just drop another one in. Well until the adapter I've ordered arrives from the US arrives anyway.

I can't really do much else until that arrives and I can get the reference disk read, and find out if the hard drive has survived...I'm not giving it great odds, but I've been surprised before.

The keyboard however has been given a good clean so I no longer feel like I'm going to catch something just by looking at it.

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Yes, that does look rather better.

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This does use Alps key switches I can now confirm.

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Which is quite interesting, as they feel very, very like the action of the buckling spring setup of the Model M, albeit with a slightly lighter action.

The display has now been removed from the machine so the driver board can be recapped.

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Though I paused here because I discovered that IBM used security Torx screws to hold the cage on. I have a set of bits for them, but they're all the way down in the garage and I didn't have patience to go dig them out today. I'll need to track down where the 205V supply for the panel is generated in the machine as that will probably want similar treatment.

In terms of actual fleet news, things are afoot.

The decision has been made to move the camper on. It's barely moved in the last two years, and we really need something a bit bigger for our needs. I've pondered this a few times, but the decision has now been made.

Especially as I've just agreed to buy something else...and need to make space.

Easily the oldest car I've ever bought. Sort of thing I'd probably have walked past without a second thought ten years or so back, but have now really started to appreciate. This is all you're getting for now.

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Should be interesting...and I'm really quite excited.

Sadly likely to be a couple of weeks before we have any movement on this as on Monday I'll be having to dash off to the US for a week to handle some family matters following a relation passing away a couple of weeks back. Why do these things always pop up at the most awkward times?
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Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - BX, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D & 230TE, AC Model 70.

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Amazing that Barn Find IBM fired up with such ease Zel... That must have been really well made. Excellent!

Can't wait to see what the new vehicular acquisition is...

All best for a good trip to the US...
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Zelandeth wrote: 05 May 2023, 01:42 Easily the oldest car I've ever bought. Sort of thing I'd probably have walked past without a second thought ten years or so back, but have now really started to appreciate. This is all you're getting for now.

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Should be interesting...and I'm really quite excited.
I think I've got it Zel. If I am right its not giving too much away for further guesses and speculation should anyone wish to join in.

Here's one lit up! :-D
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In fairness compared to a lot of things I've bought this one isn't particularly obscure. From what I can gather, chronically underappreciated compared to the later models that followed it, but not really obscure.
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I think I have sorted it too, if I am right then raising the camera a few degrees from your picture Zel would have produced this:
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mickthemaverick wrote: 05 May 2023, 14:12 I think I have sorted it too, if I am right then raising the camera a few degrees from your picture Zel would have produced this:

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You would be correct.
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mickthemaverick wrote: 05 May 2023, 14:12 I think I have sorted it too, if I am right then raising the camera a few degrees from your picture Zel would have produced this:

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Swiping that for another forum.
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Collection mission tomorrow morning...had planned to wait until we were back next week, but apparently that's not happening!
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Good luck with that Zel, being Coronation Day you may find either empty roads or jams everywhere!! :-D
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Full report later, but despite absolutely torrential rain the whole two and a half hour drive back from Bristol (plus a bit) which judging from the number of broken down cars we saw had claimed several victims, it didn't miss a beat the whole way home.

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Bit of a baptism of fire for the old girl!
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Looks tidy enough Zel, just needs some TLC to be a winner!! :)
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