Xsara Picasso Electric Sunroof.....

[Lynyrd Skynner1]

Hi All , First visit back here for sometime anyway wife and I have just got a 2006 1.6hdi desire in persan bronze the old sunroof appears to have a slight issue , motor works , the runners move back and forth on both sides fine they just don't seem to pick up the roof Iam sure there could be some broken plastic bits not sure though anyone else had a similar issue , if so whats the cure please...

[Lynyrd Skynner1]

ok anyone in the Beds Bucks Herts areas be happy to meet up so I can compare sunroofs to see what mine isn't doing...

Thanks in advance..

[GiveMeABreak]

Not sure what you are looking for, but here are the parts diagrams in case it helps you work put what's what:

[Lynyrd Skynner1]

Thanks for that , not sure its helped ......
should there be a some sort of hole or aperture near the motor in the roof lining to open and close the roof manually ? as there is not one on the car or do you gently pull the headlining down ?

[GiveMeABreak]

No, not from either the manual or the documentation I have.

The system does have an antipinch function that needs reinitialising if the battery has been disconnected.

There should be 2 settings - 1 quick press to the comfort position, second quick press - to maximum opening. To reinitialise, after roof has closed, hold button in the closed position for a second or two and release.

But if the glass is not opening or closing, then it's possible the drive cables have snapped

Replacement is possible, but involves taking the headlining off, the interior blind trim, drilling out the rivets and replacing the cables.....

They do a cable set - item (12) in the second diagram I posted that contains the complete cables at 'G', 'H' & 'I'. Part number 8401TR and the price is £177.07 inc. VAT from Citroen.

If you want to attempt this, let me know and I can put up a guide, but I'll need the VIN as there are several types of roof systems used and I was referring to an Exclusive as an example above.

[Lynyrd Skynner1]

Thanks for your reply , Iam pretty sure the cables are ok as you can see part of the mechanism moving backwards and forwards on both sides , the whole system appears to work fine like you say it does 2 settings which work fine the only thing that does not happen is the roof does not open .....

[GiveMeABreak]

It may depend on where the wire (s) are broken - if they are broken, as the motor reducer may still retract and spool the wires out - it may be that the break is where you can't see it.

The only other issues I'm aware of is that the runners can get dry and this can cause additional strain on the system - some good silicone spray along the length of the runners will ensure less strain on the motor. So you have nothing to lose I would suggest at this point.

[Lynyrd Skynner1]

You mentioned about having ago at taking it apart ....not that brave its gonna have to be someone who knows what there doing...

[GiveMeABreak]

That's the problem - it's not a common operation and if you take it to a third party garage they may be guessing, break it or worse and it will be more costly to repair....

The parts are not a service item and would generally be ordered on demand, so you won't find these easily from a third party seller - or a dealer selling off old parts as it's not a stock item.

Official labour time is listed as 3 hours to replace the cables.... if that is the issue. Do you have your VIN, because as I say there are 2 types - one with 2 glass panels and one with a panoramic roof type. They are different so I need to ascertain which one you have.

[Lynyrd Skynner1]

will find out tonight and get back to you .....thanks for your help BTW..

[Lynyrd Skynner1]

Here is the vin you asked for ....VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]....

Thanks....

[GiveMeABreak]

Ok, so confirmed the parts and the previous diagrams I posted are correct. At least I have the VIN in case of future queries.