Whatsthisthen?

This is the place for posts that don't fit into any other category.

Moderator: RichardW

User avatar
NewcastleFalcon
Posts: 24774
Joined: 25 Feb 2009, 10:40
x 6892

Re: Whatsthisthen?.new one to try

Post by NewcastleFalcon »

Gibbo2286 wrote: 12 Jun 2018, 19:21 The pink one is the German (Opel) equivalent to the Cresta from the late 50s, can't remember what they called it, Rekord comes to mind but I think that might have been smaller.


This is a useful site for nailing down years makes and models, consists of pics from many sources including manufacturers brochures, and a bit history of the model

https://www.classiccarcatalogue.com/

So I'll start off with 1960 and Opel and see what comes up.....

For the second one I too thought Renault...will give that a try too.

Regards Neil
Only One AA Box left
687 Trinity, Jersey
User avatar
NewcastleFalcon
Posts: 24774
Joined: 25 Feb 2009, 10:40
x 6892

Re: Whatsthisthen?.new one to try

Post by NewcastleFalcon »

This is an Opel Kapitan 2.5L from 1959

Image

Could be close, although the Rekord of that sort of vintage is also very similar

Image

What do you think...pretty close?

Regards Neil
Only One AA Box left
687 Trinity, Jersey
User avatar
NewcastleFalcon
Posts: 24774
Joined: 25 Feb 2009, 10:40
x 6892

Re: Whatsthisthen?.new one to try

Post by NewcastleFalcon »

.and number 2

Image

1957 from classiccarcatalogue has this picture of a Renault Fregate Grand Pavois

Image

Looks pretty close the fregate has that characteristic chrome piece just in front of the rear wheel.

Regards Neil
Only One AA Box left
687 Trinity, Jersey
Gibbo2286
(Donor 2020)
Posts: 7228
Joined: 08 Jun 2011, 18:04
x 2523

Re: Whatsthisthen?.new one to try

Post by Gibbo2286 »

NewcastleFalcon wrote: 12 Jun 2018, 20:03 .and number 2

Image

1957 from classiccarcatalogue has this picture of a Renault Fregate Grand Pavois

Image

Looks pretty close the fregate has that characteristic chrome piece just in front of the rear wheel.

Regards Neil


Spats. :-D
Man is, by nature, a lazy beast, he does not need twice encouraging to do nothing.
User avatar
NewcastleFalcon
Posts: 24774
Joined: 25 Feb 2009, 10:40
x 6892

Re: Whatsthisthen?.new one to try

Post by NewcastleFalcon »

I'll give you all I have got on this one. Its not a car, not even road-going. Its a luggage trolley.

But, on the trawl I have done so far a very unusual luggage trolley. Weardale Railway/Stanhope station and restored.

The unusual thing...its neither manual nor electric. Its a three-wheeler and appears to be "petrol" maybe 2-stroke.

Here's the external appearance in three-photos. Closest I have come so far is the phrase "Bonser Truck" 1950's. Any ideas for nailing it down?
Nfalcon own work
Nfalcon own work
N falcon own work
N falcon own work
N Falcon own work
N Falcon own work
Regards Neil
Only One AA Box left
687 Trinity, Jersey
User avatar
Zelandeth
Donor 2024
Posts: 4740
Joined: 16 Nov 2014, 23:36
x 1406

Re: Whatsthisthen?.new one to try

Post by Zelandeth »

Easy if you follow my blog, but here's one to have a shot at.

What's this then?
IMG_20180709_160010.jpg
Current fleet:
06 Peugeot Partner Escapade 1.6HDi, 88 Renault 25 Monaco, 85 Sinclair C5, 84 Trabant 601S, 75 Rover 3500, 73 AC Model 70.
User avatar
NewcastleFalcon
Posts: 24774
Joined: 25 Feb 2009, 10:40
x 6892

Re: Whatsthisthen?.new one to try

Post by NewcastleFalcon »

Zelandeth wrote: 09 Jul 2018, 22:56 Easy if you follow my blog, but here's one to have a shot at.


This looks close, although the fluff on top of the hazards light maybe not quite right!
000dash.jpg
Regards Neil
Only One AA Box left
687 Trinity, Jersey
User avatar
NewcastleFalcon
Posts: 24774
Joined: 25 Feb 2009, 10:40
x 6892

Re: Whatsthisthen?.new one to try

Post by NewcastleFalcon »

My own platform motorised trolley Whatsthisthen? from Stanhope Railway Station still defeats me, the FCF and the internet, may have to ask a real human next time I am at Stanhope :-D

Regards Neil
Only One AA Box left
687 Trinity, Jersey
User avatar
xantia_v6
Forum Admin Team
Posts: 9097
Joined: 09 Nov 2005, 22:03
x 836

Re: Whatsthisthen?.new one to try

Post by xantia_v6 »

NewcastleFalcon wrote: 08 Jul 2018, 21:58 I'll give you all I have got on this one. Its not a car, not even road-going. Its a luggage trolley.

But, on the trawl I have done so far a very unusual luggage trolley. Weardale Railway/Stanhope station and restored.

The unusual thing...its neither manual nor electric. Its a three-wheeler and appears to be "petrol" maybe 2-stroke.

Here's the external appearance in three-photos. Closest I have come so far is the phrase "Bonser Truck" 1950's. Any ideas for nailing it down?

DSC00366.JPGDSC00365.JPGDSC00364.JPG

Regards Neil

Image
Image
Image


That immediately struck a chord for me. I think that small trucks with the same front end, but different bodywork were used by the local council in the 1960s, either used by the streets maintenance department or the park gardeners (or maybe both). I will wrack my brain a little more.
Gibbo2286
(Donor 2020)
Posts: 7228
Joined: 08 Jun 2011, 18:04
x 2523

Re: Whatsthisthen?.new one to try

Post by Gibbo2286 »

Bonser or Bonsar not sure of the spelling.
Man is, by nature, a lazy beast, he does not need twice encouraging to do nothing.
User avatar
NewcastleFalcon
Posts: 24774
Joined: 25 Feb 2009, 10:40
x 6892

Re: Whatsthisthen?.new one to try

Post by NewcastleFalcon »

Gibbo2286 wrote: 11 Jul 2018, 09:34 Bonser or Bonsar not sure of the spelling.
xantia_v6 wrote: 11 Jul 2018, 07:40 That immediately struck a chord for me. I think that small trucks with the same front end, but different bodywork were used by the local council in the 1960s, either used by the streets maintenance department or the park gardeners (or maybe both). I will wrack my brain a little more.
This little video of this Wrigley truck does fit. It has a Villiers Engine, and the general architecture is similar except that "my truck" has has handlebars and the worlds most uncomfortable looking round seat in the truck payload bed.
My truck has the Villiers V logo on the engine cover.



Regards Neil

ps....Image
Only One AA Box left
687 Trinity, Jersey
MikeT
Posts: 4809
Joined: 11 Jun 2007, 16:17
x 232

Re: Whatsthisthen?.new one to try

Post by MikeT »

A local Dog Warden took part in a Scout Carnival parade last weekend driving something like one of those....
http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/1 ... /#gallery0
User avatar
bobins
Donor 2023
Posts: 5749
Joined: 05 Jul 2012, 18:07
x 2898

Re: Whatsthisthen?.new one to try

Post by bobins »

Quite a few of them out there when you start looking. It could be a model TF Bonser - but I'm not an afficionado so could easily be wrong :)

This picture courtesy of the Vintage Horticulture and Garden Machinery Club forum http://www.vhgmc.co.uk/

Image

And another from the VHGMC:

Image

This one (a 1965 TF) courtesy of a Cheffins auction catalogue from a few years ago - hammer price £1200:
https://www.i-bidder.com/en-us/auction- ... e0013ac9bc

Image


A bit more information on the truck's manufacture - complete with 3 different spellings of the Bonser name ! - can be found here:
http://tractors.wikia.com/wiki/Malcolm_Martin_Trucks
Sadly no longer a C5 owner :(
User avatar
GiveMeABreak
Forum Admin Team
Posts: 37459
Joined: 15 Sep 2015, 19:38
x 5745

Re: Whatsthisthen?.new one to try

Post by GiveMeABreak »

That'll be my next mode of transport.

Mode.PNG
Please Don't PM Me For Technical Help

Marc
User avatar
NewcastleFalcon
Posts: 24774
Joined: 25 Feb 2009, 10:40
x 6892

Re: Whatsthisthen?.new one to try

Post by NewcastleFalcon »

Definitely got our moneysworth out of that little motorised trolley! Excellent work. I also see the Bonser also had a Villiers engine..Wolverhampton's finest! I did expect a "Railway platform trolleys" website/forum/facebook group which would have comprehensive details of such motorised trolleys as used by British Railways...but couldn't find one!

I did look up on the DVLA the number plate on one of Bobins photos which I also came across..put me on to Wrigley, the video and the company based in Poole.

Excellent bit of delving..thanks for the contributions.

Regards Neil
Only One AA Box left
687 Trinity, Jersey