C5 Eolys Question.

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C5 Eolys Question.

Post by leithant » 26 Dec 2014, 06:37

Hi, had the low warning come up awhile ago and am wanting to verify which fluid to use. I have a 2006 2.2 Hdi. My research led me to believe it should be Eolys 176/ infineum, and that the filler on the tank should be green, and not white.
When I had a look the tank looked different the ones I saw online.
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As you can see there is no green cap and the connectors have white clips not green as I saw elsewhere.

Just want to verify if I have the correct fluid type, please!

Thanks, Leith.

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Re: C5 Eolys Question.

Post by wheeler » 26 Dec 2014, 09:13

Definitely 176 type on a 2006 model.

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Re: C5 Eolys Question.

Post by leithant » 26 Dec 2014, 09:23

Even though white connectors are meant to mean dpx? The RPO is correct for 176 though. I just want to be absolutely sure!

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Re: C5 Eolys Question.

Post by dnsey » 26 Dec 2014, 09:42

Simple answer might be to use the JLM stuff, which is meant to be compatible with either system.

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Re: C5 Eolys Question.

Post by leithant » 26 Dec 2014, 09:51

I've already bought the Infineum kit though.

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Re: C5 Eolys Question.

Post by bobins » 26 Dec 2014, 14:13

Edit:

Important note about the information below:
The information was correct at the time it was posted, and technically it still is correct, but it is stressed that anyone who has the option of filling with either Infineum or Powerflex should fill with only Infineum. This is to ensure that subsequent fillings of the additive tank are only done with Infineum and that there is no possibility of traces of Powerflex in the tank being mixed with Infineum or vice versa.
If you have the option of filling with either Infineum or Powerflex and you have already refilled the additive tank with Powerflex, then you need to ensure that all subsequent refills are done with Powerflex.

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Are you sitting comfortably ? Then I shall begin........

I've edited out a couple of references which don't add anything to the understanding of what goes where, but basically this is what Cit Docbackup has to say on additives....

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1. The new 3rd generation particle filter additives
Factory-fitted application between RPO 12110 and 12166 (According to vehicle).
Suppliers and brands :

RHODIA : EOLYS POWERFLEX
INFINEUM : F7995

2. Previous type of additive
Additive DPX 42 is still available and must be used for all servicing on vehicles that have DPX 42.
When stocks of additive EOLYS 176 run out, it will be replaced by the 3rd generation additives.
N.B. : From 15/07/2010 onwards: Additive EOLYS 176 will no longer be available to order from Replacement Parts.

3. Compatibility between additives
Additive DPX42 cannot be mixed with any other additive.
Additive EOLYS 176 can be mixed with additives EOLYS POWERFLEX and INFINEUM F7995.
Additives EOLYS POWERFLEX and INFINEUM F7995 cannot be mixed with each other.
N.B. : As the additive concentrations between EOLYS 176 and the two new additives are identical, there is no impact on the operating calibrations of the engine ECU.
CAUTION : It is not permissible to mix additives INFINEUM F7995 and Rhodia EOLYS POWERFLEX with each other.


4. Filling or topping up with additive
4.1. Identifying the type of additive present in the vehicle
CAUTION : Prior to any operation on the additive reservoir, it is necessary to identify the type of additive present in the vehicle.

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RPO Number                                            Vehicle     Additive Type
Prior to RPO No. 9492                                 All types   DPX 42
Between 9492 and 12110 or 12166 depending on version  All types   EOLYS 176
From RPO number 12 116 	                            C6          INFINEUM F7995
From RPO number 12 125 	                            C5 (X7) 	 INFINEUM F7995
From RPO number 12 152 	                          C8, DISPATCH  EOLYS POWERFLEX
From RPO number 12 166 	   C4, CITROËN C4 PICASSO, BERLINGO(B9) EOLYS POWERFLEX
CAUTION : The only clue is the colour of the clickfit union on the filler interface..

4.2. Rules for choice of additive for after-sales operations
N.B. : These rules only concern the filling of rigid reservoirs with particle filter additive.

Conversion chart for filling or topping-up operations:

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Additive present in vehicle  Colour of clickfit on filler  Additive to be used in all operations
DPX 42                       Intentionally left blank      DPX 42
EOLYS 176                    Green clickfit 	            EOLYS 176 - INFINEUM F7995
INFINEUM F7995 	           Green clickfit 	            INFINEUM F7995
EOLYS POWERFLEX 	          Blue clickfit 	             EOLYS POWERFLEX

5. Identification and packaging of the particle filter additives

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Type of additive 	Cap colour in additive kit 	part no PR 
EOLYS DPX 42 	    White 	                     9979.95
EOLYS 176 	       Green                         9736.86
INFINEUM F7995      Green                         9736.97
EOLYS POWER FLEX 	Light blue 	                9736 A1
N.B. : For any maintenance operation requiring filling of the rigid additive reservoir, it is essential to refer to the conversion chart for the colour coding between the clickfit union on the rigid reservoir filler interface and the cap colour in the 3rd generation additive kit.


6. Recommendations/precautions
CAUTION : It is not permissible to mix additives INFINEUM F7995 and Rhodia EOLYS POWERFLEX with each other.
If the additives should be reversed, the filter becomes clogged with particles.
Use these products exclusively ; any other product causes a mmalfunction of the filtration system.
Use clean additive only as any particles risk causing the additive injector to seize.
N.B. : The soft additive pouches have a Part No. and must be replaced with respect to that Part No..

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Does that help to muddy the waters a bit ? :-D

cheers,

Robin
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Re: C5 Eolys Question.

Post by leithant » 26 Dec 2014, 14:24

Thanks, Robin. It still leaves the waters muddy.

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Re: C5 Eolys Question.

Post by bobins » 26 Dec 2014, 15:20

My guess, going only on the 'clickfit' colours, would be DPX42 as your 'clickfit' would match the colour of the cap on the new bottle of additive, but that would pay no regard to how it fits in with your RPO number.

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Re: C5 Eolys Question.

Post by haydent » 16 Jan 2015, 11:00

curious about this too have rpo that matches 176 in sedre table but have white click fits, 06 c5, need to order some any tips on working this out ?

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Re: C5 Eolys Question.

Post by stevo31 » 16 Jan 2016, 00:25

I have a 2009 Citroen C4 Pissaco 1.6 automatic. what type of additive is used in the partial filters. In previous posts in this forum it mentions upstream and downstream flows into the filter what does this mean

Thanks for your help stephen

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Re: C5 Eolys Question.

Post by RichardW » 16 Jan 2016, 09:26

Stephen

Need to know the RP number of the car to be sure, as it looks like they started off with 176 and then went to powerflex, which are not mixable - so you need to make sure you get the right one. Changeover day was 12166 - post up your RP no (on the tyre sticker on the A post) to confirm.

The C4 Picasso uses a flexible pouch which you are just supposed to change complete - Like this (this is for the earlier cars) I guess in principle you could refill. I expect the job is coming up on ours, as it's done 90k without refill!

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Re: C5 Eolys Question.

Post by russbif » 01 Dec 2017, 08:21

I know this is an old topic, but I just found it, I have been successfully refilling the pouch on my c3 Picasso for some time.
There is a non return valve in the neck of the pouch, if you get a small funnel it is easy to depress the valve with the funnel stem then Just pour In the fluid. Make sure there is no air in the bag before refitting. Do not overfill the bag or it will not fit back inside the casing (ask me how I know)

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Re: C5 Eolys Question.

Post by RichardW » 01 Dec 2017, 09:27

Worth checking if you have a bag that it is OK for refill before you buy the fluid - ours had a hole in it somewhere, so would have been NBG for a refill! I got a new one for £130 of e-bay, good for longer than we will have the car, so seemed OK to me.

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Re: C5 Eolys Question.

Post by lexi » 01 Dec 2017, 11:53

Jesus! This is why I have an 03 plate diesel :lol:

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Re: C5 Eolys Question.

Post by russbif » 01 Dec 2017, 21:09

Mine had a microscopic pinhole too, repaired it with self adhesive aluminium tape. You have to make sure the bag is absolutely clean and grease free before sticking, but it’s worked.
I wonder if it would be possible to get an old intact bag and refill..