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Well, time for some more of my ramblings :roll:

I'm afraid some of it is Rover related so you might as well go onto another thread right about now ...

It would have been rude and a missed opportunity for me not to have taken my 75 back to where it was made, Longbridge, Birmingham.

As you'll know the site is now owned by MG Motor UK who is owned by SAIC, largely a Chinese company. However, they do offer site tours every Thursday afternoon, so I and a few mates went along for this. While I do quite like the new MG6 and I would consider buying one if that is what I wanted as its not a Focus or an Ashtray, it was more the site I went to see.

Upon arrival I parked on the double yellow lines to have a picture of the site in the background. A security chappy runs out and I expect him to say I can't park there and could we move along, but no, he suggested for a better picture might I want to park the 75 on the plinth and asked if I had been into the visitors centre. So I did:

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So, into the sales centre we go, obviously there is only one car I would and did take home here:

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It was nice to still see a good selection of 75s inside the site, no doubt owned by staff who still have a passion for the place. There were also a few of the smaller Rovers running about as site cars and one 45 parked up which looked brand new and unregistered. Strange.

We started out by having a look at the 6's in the showroom and then into a conference seated area for a presentation about the site, its history and what MG is now, how its growing and so on. We then went on into the site and had a quick look about, into the old Rover buildings to see a small museum of cars built there. I was in my element to see a one off 75 built as the 5 millionth Rover to have been made, in unique colour and spec which was as new, having never been used. We then went into the technical centre which has a mock-up of the new MG5 and a mass of people all sat at desks, perhaps on facebook, im not sure! They carry out european styling exercises there, concept cars and have a full engine unit testing facility, as well as final production of the 3 & 6. We had a quick look inside the production building where they were on with checks of pre-production MG3s. Unfortunately the tour wasn't extensive and I could happily have wandered off for a full walk of the site. I love all of the history there but the site is a tiny percentage of what it used to be. They are still knocking it down, in fact.

As we were in the area we then headed for the Heritage Motor Museum for a quick look around. I've been many times but they keep it interesting by changing the exhibits.
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My 75 did in excess of 450 miles that day and while it was nice to drive and certainly has a great engine after its remap, I was longing for the comforts of my Xantias. Since I now have the Polo as my commuting hack I don't need the 75 and to keep it as a longer distance car or cruiser doesn't make sense, when the Xantias do that so much better. I've enjoyed having both my 75s and they are still a car I will always like, but I've done them now, hopefully it can move on without me losing too many funds. I don't suppose they are the best selling cars in the world and there is certainly no shortage of them.

I couldn't resist a quick picture of the fleet before it goes.
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So, hopefully that is my fleet sorted for the next year, which will see me through my final university year. That has been a long time coming, I can tell you! Having just got my timetable, I'm back 5 days a week and I'll be working at least 3 days a week. So that either means adding an extra day to my week, which would be handy, or more likely doing both on the same day, meaning in excess of 90 miles per day. Roll on May!

The trip to Birmingham has rather made up my mind for me, to get my car number back to a sensible three, the 75 will be the one to move out. And I need to be sensible as this next years is the one which counts.

So my car plan is:
Activa - my 'toy' to get out on nice days and enjoy driving it, probably on SORN for the winter to resist temptation
HDi Exclusive - long distance mile muncher kept in use through winter but used sparingly
Polo - daily hack taking up my many commuting miles with ease and I dont have to worry about it getting knocked in carparks, having the dog in the boot and worrying about the interior etc.

The Polo is a great old workhorse, all it needed was the timing belt doing and since I've not taken the courage to do that myself yet, I beached it into a local VW specialist. That now done its good to go, having had a service, recent MOT, brakes, tyres, etc before I bought it. As I said I've had two cars with this 1.4TDi engine before and it is simply a little cracker. Its a 3 pot with loads of character, a punchy turbo and a good sound ... for a diesel. Its a gusty performer and knocks spots off my C2 1.4HDi for performance and economy. I'm getting an average of 61/62mpg from the Polo, which is just perfect. An no, its not a bone shaking sledge or an unrefined box, its actually very pleasant. As ever is the way with me its getting more shiny and better by the day, with a machine polish under way, new metal number plates etc. It always takes me a while to trust a new to me car, but I've known this Polo for all of its life and so its like I've had it myself for years.

I had a test drive in an electric car this morning for a project I'm working on, not a Citroen but its the same as the C-Zero, or rather the Citroen is the off spring. It was a Mitsubishi I-MiEV, an interesting little thing which I found pretty good to drive. Its very odd not having the sound of an engine, any gears or gear changes and the thought in the back of your mind to always drive 'economically'. The regenerative braking of the motor was strange, you use the gearstick to select the amount of motor braking and with practice this can be used almost instead of the actual disc brakes. I would like more time with one but its a good concept for people who only stay locally. Technology has a long way to go before I consider one as a viable commuter.

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In Citroen news ... not a lot really. I did take a trip to Edinburgh last Monday to take a look at a LHD hydraulic Traction which was leaning over to one side. The front torsion bars were not adjusted evenly. It was a good day, being taken out in Edinburgh in the back of a hydraulic Traction on the cobbled streets, quite something! We should really use ours more, its been out of its garage maybe a handful of times this year.

I had the Activa out at the weekend, I thought I best check it over and drive it before the CXM this coming weekend. All appears fine and I should be there with it this weekend, provided it doesn't get washed away with all of this expectant rain tomorrow. I hate driving the Activa in the rain, partly because I dont like getting it wet and full of muck and partly because in the wet you just can not make the most of its suspension as the grip obviously is reduced.
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Interesting post

The Polo's are pretty comfy and have a good driving position for a small car, although I don't like the driving position of the latest polo.

Surprised the Xantia is more comfortable on a run than the 75. Although two things spring to mind - 1) does the Xantia have alloys? 2) the later 75's had firmer suspension than the earlier ones I do believe.
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You're selling the 75 already?
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Northern_Mike wrote:You're selling the 75 already?
Another car for you to buy Mike :lol: :lol: :lol:
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A great update Chris , the Rover visit sounded like a goodtime .

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Good luck for final year, Chris :)

Rover visit did look very good! Although I've seen about two MG 6's on the road which isn't great :/

I did like my 75 V6, I'd have another.
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CitroJim wrote:
Northern_Mike wrote:You're selling the 75 already?
Another car for you to buy Mike :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ha Ha. Ha.
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ashy90 wrote:Interesting post

The Polo's are pretty comfy and have a good driving position for a small car, although I don't like the driving position of the latest polo.

Surprised the Xantia is more comfortable on a run than the 75. Although two things spring to mind - 1) does the Xantia have alloys? 2) the later 75's had firmer suspension than the earlier ones I do believe.
Yes I'm not as impressed with the latest generation of Polo as I would have thought. My uncle replaced the one I have now with a new 1.2TDi Match 5 door, list price £15,500, a lot for a small car in my opinion. Its brand new so has a bit of running in to do but the engine isn't a patch on the old 3 pot 1.4TDi I have and the gearing is too spaced out. The ride and refinement are good though.

I'm not surprised the Xantias are the more comfy car, it is what they do very well and even by modern car standards. Both of my Xantias have alloy wheels yes. Both of my 75s have been late mk1s on 53 plates so maybe the earlier ones did have a better ride. The ride is not shocking but it could have been better in my opinion. I added 16" wheels to my 75 over its original 15", which did actually slightly improve ride quality but raised tyre noise. Its back on its original wheels now and is a little more refined again. Doing a long run in my Activa at the weekend there does just highlight how good Xantias still are, refinement is pretty good, great seats, superb ride quality and I got out of the car without an ache, without really knowing I had done a long drive and without thinking I wish it was that bit more refined or had a better ride.
Northern_Mike wrote:You're selling the 75 already?
I hope so Mike, its about three months since I bought it I think. I had been looking for a small car for ages but finding something decent which I like was difficult. So many used cars these days seem to have had rough backgrounds and I'm a bit picky. However I stumbled across this 75 while I was at a dealers and it was such an honest car, in a good spec and colour, I had to buy it. I'll always like 75s and I might well have another at some point (perhaps a nice early one) but this one just doesn't fit in with my other cars now. I bought it as my daily hack but have became too precious with it and its far from a cheap thing to run and maintain. Something which is advantageous going into my final uni year.
bxzx16v wrote:A great update Chris , the Rover visit sounded like a goodtime .

Mark
It was very good! Contry to popular belief my car interests stretch beyond Citroens 8-)
R9UKE wrote:Good luck for final year, Chris :)

Rover visit did look very good! Although I've seen about two MG 6's on the road which isn't great :/

I did like my 75 V6, I'd have another.
Thanks Luke :-D

The MG 6 isn't selling well here and I don't suppose they mind. They are selling well in China and a car which is made in the UK and maybe seen as a popular brand will only add to the sales over there. They have new cars planned and a huge site in China, they certainly aren't going anywhere.
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I have had my Activa in for an MOT this morning, I find it always a bit of a worry with any car as the tester could always find something which has gone unnoticed to me. I booked it in with the usual place who know me, they said "it'll be a Citroen is it?" "yes its a Xantia" "A Xantia! There are none of them left now" he said. Not quite true but it is the case that very few remain around here.

The result? A pass with not one advisory, thats what I like to see :-D

Within the past year it has covered just 2,200 miles, which has been a little lower than previous as I have had other Xantias, the XM etc. 600 of those miles have been over the last weekend, going to the CXM rally, where it proved faultess. I am singing its praises at the moment, they really are a great car for long distances and eat up motorway miles far better than a lot of modern cars. I was sitting at 80 most of the time (when it wasn't showing a few figures on the speedo) and then with some hooning around the enjoyable little roads near MK and the large roundabouts. Its returned just shy of 30mpg over the weekend. Respectable I think.
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Great news Chris , I've heard the " I've not seen one of these for years " a few times with the Zx . The most annoying one though is " that's nice that volcane , they were the top of the range " #-o [-X , as nice as the volcane is THIS ISN'T ONE :wink: . You must get it with your activa too .

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Thing is with the Activa, so few people know what they are, they probably think its a special edition badging or something :lol:

Nevertheless, I'm over the moon with it.

I best check when the HDi needs its MOT, as I dont think its far away.
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Excellent news on the MOT pass Chris :-D

My Activa is due an MOT at the end of the month... I think mine has done a similar sort of mileage...

And they are now possibly the rarest of all Xantias...
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CitroJim wrote:Excellent news on the MOT pass Chris :-D

My Activa is due an MOT at the end of the month... I think mine has done a similar sort of mileage...

And they are now possibly the rarest of all Xantias...
Thanks Jim, its always a good feeling!

Good luck with your Activas MOT, im sure it'll be just fine.

You might not be wrong there, they are dropping in numbers alarmingly quickly each year. :shock:
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superloopy wrote: I've got two non-runners :sad:
Wish I lived a lot closer to you and I'd come and help you fix them Mike...
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I had intended going to the Manchester Classic Car Show this weekend for just the Saturday to have a look around. As it turned out we got a call to see if we could bring the C15 along for the show, which followed by another phone call to see if I could bring the Activa too.

So I set about looking into the logistics of this, weighing up whether to stay down there or drive back. It was more convenient to come home as we were needed here, so I went looking for a hire car again. This seems a simple thing and maybe I make it out to be more complicated but its not easy finding a place who is open on Sunday evenings and don't want security of a silly deposit, one wanted £1250 which I felt uneasy about!

So I settled with Enterprise which went less than well as their service was not excellent, but they did make up for things so all was well there. I don't know what our collection driver was doing but having to yell at them for being on the wrong side of the road and traffic light island, narrowly avoiding a head on crash with a Bentley, didn't fill me with confidence! Having driven almost 600 miles in a new Corsa this weekend and then experiencing a new Astra, I was very pleased to hand back the keys. Truly hateful things; horrendous tyre noise (concrete sections of motorways are to be avoided), terrible seats which gave me back ache after 30 minutes and engines which lack any performance, economy or character. I'm amazed people buy these things, must be some kind of ploy to limit peoples car usage!

Anyway, less of that ... more about the show:

This was the first classic car show organised in accordance with Footman James, located at Event City in Manchester. It promised to be the NEC but on a smaller scale and it did pull that off very well in my opinion. There was a very good mixture of cars, a good turnout for a first show and some decent trade stalls too. The outside parking for classics brought to the show by day visitors was also well worth walking around. There was also a sort of rally-cross event of classic rally cars, some of which had a few spills but they were certainly using the cars to the full.

The Citroen stand has 10 Citroens and a Panhard, we had two D's, Traction, Mehari, GS, CX, C15. Activa, C6 and an SM. All of the cars generated their own interest and questions, its always interesting talking to other owners and people who appreciate the cars.

I was quite surprised but delighted to receive the 'car of the show post 1990' award for my Activa by Footman James. For which I have received a glass trophy, that did rather make my day! :roll:

My drive home in the Xantia was very welcome after a few days in the pretty unappealing Vauxhalls, plenty of power on tap, a cosseting ride, a peaceful cabin and enjoyable handling. I seemed to do the 130 mile drive in quarter of the time, no sooner had I set off had I arrived at home.

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