Injection Diagram

This is the Forum for all your Citroen Technical Questions, Problems or Advice.

Moderator: RichardW

Sponk
Donor 2024
Posts: 42
Joined: 04 Oct 2023, 19:33

Injection Diagram

Post by Sponk »

Diagram also in this thread? Is it possible, when you have access next time, to get information about the ECU connections for this one VF3**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff] Thank you
Last edited by GiveMeABreak on 18 Apr 2024, 15:05, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Moved out of parts thread.
User avatar
GiveMeABreak
Forum Admin Team
Posts: 37526
Joined: 15 Sep 2015, 19:38
x 5763

Re: Injection Diagram

Post by GiveMeABreak »

You didn't specify which ECU. Diagrams are system-specific so we need to know the specific system, like, ABS / ESP, Injection, Locking, Gearbox etc.

I'm assuming you require the engine ECU, so...

With the exception of the wiring codes, most of the component codes are indexed here:

PSA Electrical Diagrams - Wiring & Symbols Codes Index

Image
Please Don't PM Me For Technical Help

Marc
Sponk
Donor 2024
Posts: 42
Joined: 04 Oct 2023, 19:33

Re: Injection Diagram

Post by Sponk »

Sorry, I didn't know, but EDC17C10
IMG_3042.jpeg
Not much more information for now.
Last edited by Sponk on 18 Apr 2024, 16:53, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
GiveMeABreak
Forum Admin Team
Posts: 37526
Joined: 15 Sep 2015, 19:38
x 5763

Re: Injection Diagram

Post by GiveMeABreak »

That's OK, I don't need the injection type - that is automatic based on your vehicle VIN data - I was just trying to advise you that ECU diagrams are separate for each major system, so I guessed if it's the injection system you required, then what is what I have put above already for you. :wink:
Please Don't PM Me For Technical Help

Marc
Sponk
Donor 2024
Posts: 42
Joined: 04 Oct 2023, 19:33

Re: Injection Diagram

Post by Sponk »

It was only to see the possibility of changing it, also has the associated BSI. Looking for overview of the connections appropriate for the model.

But now that we're writing, I want to hear from you why some numbers are only displayed as, for example, 10- -?
IMG_2695.jpeg
User avatar
GiveMeABreak
Forum Admin Team
Posts: 37526
Joined: 15 Sep 2015, 19:38
x 5763

Re: Injection Diagram

Post by GiveMeABreak »

Anything with a ------ line around it means it is optional equipment and may not be installed on your vehicle.

Basically as I think I mentioned the BSI, Engine ECU and Transponders are matched sets. If replacing any one of these parts, they must be either new and configured and paired online with the correct diagnostics, or virginised if second hand used and then paired and configured as mentioned.
Please Don't PM Me For Technical Help

Marc
Sponk
Donor 2024
Posts: 42
Joined: 04 Oct 2023, 19:33

Re: Injection Diagram

Post by Sponk »

Thank you 👍💪
User avatar
xantia_v6
Forum Admin Team
Posts: 9098
Joined: 09 Nov 2005, 22:03
x 836

Re: Injection Diagram

Post by xantia_v6 »

GiveMeABreak wrote: 18 Apr 2024, 17:06 Anything with a ------ line around it means it is optional equipment and may not be installed on your vehicle.
I think that it is more correct that those are off-page connectors to other parts of the electrical system, and the 2 digit code indicates which system is referenced. For example here, 10-- is the charging system, 15-- is the cooling system, 16-- is the transmission etc.
Sponk
Donor 2024
Posts: 42
Joined: 04 Oct 2023, 19:33

Re: Injection Diagram

Post by Sponk »

xantia_v6 wrote: 18 Apr 2024, 21:22
GiveMeABreak wrote: 18 Apr 2024, 17:06 Anything with a ------ line around it means it is optional equipment and may not be installed on your vehicle.
I think that it is more correct that those are off-page connectors to other parts of the electrical system, and the 2 digit code indicates which system is referenced. For example here, 10-- is the charging system, 15-- is the cooling system, 16-- is the transmission etc.
What about the numbers that are not on the list, for example 1357, Is it an error in the listing?
User avatar
GiveMeABreak
Forum Admin Team
Posts: 37526
Joined: 15 Sep 2015, 19:38
x 5763

Re: Injection Diagram

Post by GiveMeABreak »

You need to look at the info I provided on the electrical diagrams, specifically here:

PSA Electrical Diagrams - Reading The Schematic Diagrams

Look at H, I & J on the example diagram.

'H' & 'I' are what Mike is referring to and 'J' means it's for optional equipment. So in your example yes, it's a link to another system. I should of paid more attention. :)

As for 1357, this is the proportional oxygen sensor.
I update the list as and when I have time and if people notify me, as it takes a while to update. The original list is quite old, so won't contain more modern systems and wiring, but I have updated this one now with the code you mentioned.
Please Don't PM Me For Technical Help

Marc
Sponk
Donor 2024
Posts: 42
Joined: 04 Oct 2023, 19:33

Re: Injection Diagram

Post by Sponk »

Knows how to interpret a chart and also knows what 1357 was. Was only wondering if it was a mistake that they weren't mentioned on the list, but could also be PSA that didn't state it, they are good at keeping certain things “ secret”, but 👍

From 3 different diagrams I have found these missing, 0004 , 1283, 13A3 (A must be an error), 1356, 1357, 1361, 1362, 1374, 1405, 1604, 7095. I myself find the missing information when comparing other diagrams, either via connection or wire no.
IMG_2710.jpeg
“Personal progress only. Extracted the keycode and started setting up the BSI so I only need to do a fine-setup when I plug it in. The EDC requires a bit more but should be good. Also got The BPGA, but missing the connection on it.”
User avatar
GiveMeABreak
Forum Admin Team
Posts: 37526
Joined: 15 Sep 2015, 19:38
x 5763

Re: Injection Diagram

Post by GiveMeABreak »

13A3 is not an error. It is the inlet air temperature and pressure sensor.

That's why we use specific diagrams for each vehicle as different engines and engine management systems have different sensors and equipment.
Please Don't PM Me For Technical Help

Marc
Sponk
Donor 2024
Posts: 42
Joined: 04 Oct 2023, 19:33

Re: Injection Diagram

Post by Sponk »

👍
Sponk
Donor 2024
Posts: 42
Joined: 04 Oct 2023, 19:33

Re: Injection Diagram

Post by Sponk »

Whenever possible, if you also have over BSI
User avatar
GiveMeABreak
Forum Admin Team
Posts: 37526
Joined: 15 Sep 2015, 19:38
x 5763

Re: Injection Diagram

Post by GiveMeABreak »

There is not diagram for the BSI - only the systems attached to it. They do not supply internal information for the BSI. This is the only info regarding the fusing:

Image
Please Don't PM Me For Technical Help

Marc