Trivia Investigation Team

[mickthemaverick]

On my very short time drilling holes in the ground, stones were not a problem, mind you we did have one of these:

The BT 'Pole Cat' from flat ground to erected pole by one vehicle.

[bobins]

Brilliant! That was an intriguing puzzle which very surprisingly had some of the younger Faclons intrigued enough to to have a go themselves with a bit of "phone" image manipulation.

Now with the address and the name, let the trivia trail continue...

Neil

It was hard enough for me to decipher and I had the roller in front of me !

Neil

A bit of history on Fore Street.......

"The street was extensively damaged by Nazi bombing during World War II and, following later development, nothing now remains of its original buildings other than St Giles-without-Cripplegate, which is a short distance away from the modern street.
Fore Street, on 25 August 1940, was the first place in the City of London to be hit by a German bomb during the Second World War, just before the start of the London Blitz proper. A plaque in the wall of Roman House, on the corner with Wood Street, marks the spot.
Up to the 1970s a Post Office telephone exchange stood between Moor Lane and Fore Street Avenue with a Post Office on the corner between Fore Street and Fore Street Avenue.

Novelist Daniel Defoe was probably born in Fore Street in around 1660. The exact date and house are not known. His father, James Foe, was a prosperous tallow chandler and a member of the Butchers' Company. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fore_Street,_London

Fore Street before the war - OS. National Library Scotland

In ruins, Fore Street after the war - OS. National Library Scotland

[NewcastleFalcon]

A bit of history on Fore Street.......

Novelist Daniel Defoe was probably born in Fore Street in around 1660. The exact date and house are not known. His father, James Foe, was a prosperous tallow chandler and a member of the Butchers' Company. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fore_Street,_London

old fore street.JPG

fore street.JPG

Excellent add-ons there Bobins, I do hope there is a decent audience lapping up the quality of the contributions on this thread. They wont get it on any other car forum on the net

Neil

[bobins]

....and there's more !

Seen in the two map extracts is Moorgate station.

Moorgate underground station.........
"The Moorgate tube crash occurred on 28 February 1975 at 8:46 am on the London Underground's Northern City Line; 43 people died and 74 were injured after a train failed to stop at the line's southern terminus, Moorgate station, and crashed into its end wall. It is considered the worst peacetime accident on the London Underground. No fault was found with the train, and the inquiry by the Department of the Environment concluded that the accident was caused by the actions of Leslie Newson, the 56-year-old driver."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorgate_tube_crash

Also........ there's a Greathead Tunneling Shield left in place from a long long time ago when the tunnel extension attempts came to a halt.
"Brunel's original (tunneling shield) design was substantially improved upon by James Henry Greathead who was granted three patents for different shield designs. Additionally, he invented the concept of sprayed concrete grout to stabilise earthworks with injected concrete, a gritting pan that hydraulically injected reinforcing grout into the cavities between the constructed lining and the circular tunnel wall.
An original Greathead shield used in the excavation of the deep London Underground lines remains in place in disused tunnels beneath Moorgate station."

Most tunnelling shields are still loosely based on Greathead's design."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnelling_shield

The Moorgate Tunneling Shield - own work

View from the tunneling shield looking back up the line - own work

[Gibbo2286]

On my very short time drilling holes in the ground, stones were not a problem, mind you we did have one of these:

I've suggested that when I snuff it they use one of those for the burial, drill the hole and drop me in upright.

[NewcastleFalcon]

No Lawn Rollers but a pair of old lawnmowers probably of no particular interest other than their nice patina but who knows may spark a random link.
The Pair

Bit of a closer photo of the innards of the bigger 1

A clear Plaque with some info on it on the smaller one
Suffolk Iron Foundry(1920) Ltd

Neil

[bobins]

You're going to like this, Neil

[NewcastleFalcon]

You're going to like this, Neil

Yes enjoyed it. After seeing that, what a shame it's just enclosing a few scruffy planters rather than springing into life again

The larger one looks very similar to Allen Millyard's in the vid to my eyes. I should have taken a close up of the spark plug, see if it was a "lodge". I did notice the smaller one did have a "champion" in it.

Neil

[NewcastleFalcon]

Looks like the Smaller one is a Suffolk Colt. Has exactly the same plate on as this one, Engine type 75G14 21A circa 1967.

https://oldlawnmowerclub.co.uk/restore/ ... 75g14a-21a

Even a manual to take it to bits
https://oldlawnmowerclub.co.uk/sites/de ... 20Colt.pdf



Neil

[Peter.N.]

I bought one of those new in Seal near Sevenoaks in the 1960s.

Peter

[NewcastleFalcon]

A brief aside to save bogging down other threads with the full trivia trail, todays recent rivet obsession needs just one more excursion in to the world of specialist tools not necessary in the modern world.

I present Rivet throwing tongs.

Throwing red hot rivets is a lost art...

Before ironworkers used bolts to connect beams, they used rivets. The ironworkers worked in four-man teams. When a rivet reached the required heat, the thrower removed it from the portable furnace with this long tong. Then, using the tongs, he threw it to the catcher, who caught it in a tin scoop. This required special accuracy because the catcher could only move a certain distance to either side (often times was straddling a steel beam), and the rivet was red hot. The “bucker upper”, using shorter tongs similar to the thrower, would take the rivet and place it into the hole. Lastly, the riveter would set the rivet with a pneumatic rivet setter.

Sometimes, skilled ironworkers would sling rivets 50 ft, and through 2 or 3 stories of framework to the catcher, with this long pair of tongs. The catcher would be situated so as to keep the rest of the team supplied with rivets.

for those who like moving pictures. The beginning of this shows Rivet Catching in New York in its skyscraper building stage.



Neil

[NewcastleFalcon]

Rivet throwing given the British Pathe treatment

Rosie, Pass the rivets aka shipbuilding


Neil

[NewcastleFalcon]

Book, as mentioned by Steve viewtopic.php?p=798162#p798162 , film, and an original song about Rosie...



Neil

[CitroJim]

Been enjoying all this stuff about a method of joining two pieces of metal...

I hesitate to say it but I'm finding it all quite riveting...

[NewcastleFalcon]

A plate on this A35 Pick-up viewtopic.php?p=798367#p798367

What is there to be discovered about Fisher and Ludlow Ltd Birmingham

Neil