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Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - BX, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D & 230TE, AC Model 70.

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Zelandeth wrote: 27 Nov 2025, 13:02
Unless you're really after a period correct one that does seem rather over the odds to pay - especially given that there's a current reprint of that manual available off the shelf from Wadham's for £35. Probably elsewhere too, but that's where I actively remember seeing it.
Think this is the same but cheaper:
https://ebay.us/m/d1sPQG
Not a huge saving (£35+VAT=£42, Vs eBay £38.25 free delivery)

As far as I can find, you are correct, no P4 Haynes book that I can see.
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MattBLancs wrote: 27 Nov 2025, 18:46
Zelandeth wrote: 27 Nov 2025, 13:02
Unless you're really after a period correct one that does seem rather over the odds to pay - especially given that there's a current reprint of that manual available off the shelf from Wadham's for £35. Probably elsewhere too, but that's where I actively remember seeing it.
Think this is the same but cheaper:
https://ebay.us/m/d1sPQG
Not a huge saving (£35+VAT=£42, Vs eBay £38.25 free delivery)

As far as I can find, you are correct, no P4 Haynes book that I can see.
Have to admit that it's one of those occasions where I'm happy enough to pay a couple of quid extra to support a marque specialist. Living with cars like these would be so much more of a headache without them.

The plot thickens with the head gasket. I noticed something when I was looking for a replacement - a photo of a new old stock gasket. Something that clearly has that the new production ones lack is a "this side up" stamp.
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The orientation of this is pointedly the opposite way around to the one which came off the engine was in. Which I blindly followed the example of when installing the new gasket. I even *thought* about that, but couldn't find a decent photo at the time. Long and short of it though is that I've installed the gasket upside down. As did whoever was in here last time.

Looking at the photo it's also obvious that the stamping of the older gaskets is of considerably better quality. So I've got a pair of proper Unipart Corgasyl gaskets on the way now.
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One to replace the one currently in there, the second is hopefully insurance against ever needing to pull the head again.

I will of course be getting the head properly checked (have had a couple of recommendations now at least) as having already failed once I really want this to just work now!
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All things being equal Zel you will be putting the second gasket into storage. It is not a good idea to subject it to excessive temperature fluctuations so I'd suggest keeping it indoors ideally pressed with a flat weight. I used to keep my spare gaskets between two sheets of 4mm ally under the bed!! :)
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I seem to remember Rover moving away from those steel gaskets to these:
https://www.classeparts.com/products/ro ... 59-to-1963
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Gibbo2286 wrote: 04 Dec 2025, 14:49 I seem to remember Rover moving away from those steel gaskets to these:
https://www.classeparts.com/products/ro ... 59-to-1963
That was definitely the case for the more modern OHV engines, but I'm not aware of any composite gaskets being available for the IoE engines - certainly not in the form used in the 110 anyway. This engine really has the roots of it's design back in the 40s (if not earlier) and I think this is one of the areas where it does show.
mickthemaverick wrote: 03 Dec 2025, 02:46 All things being equal Zel you will be putting the second gasket into storage. It is not a good idea to subject it to excessive temperature fluctuations so I'd suggest keeping it indoors ideally pressed with a flat weight. I used to keep my spare gaskets between two sheets of 4mm ally under the bed!! :)
I could definitely see that being an issue with composite gaskets which contain adhesives and such which long term could degrade in storage, but where we're just dealing with a piece of stamped steel I would expect it to be less of an issue. So long as it doesn't get damp or physically damaged it should be fine I'd think.

New gaskets have now arrived.

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It's immediately obvious that they weigh about twice as much as the modern ones. The quality of the stamping and the surface finish is far better as well.

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Will I be getting the calipers out and measuring the thickness of the new and old gaskets relative to each other? You bet I will.

Will hopefully start getting it stripped back down this weekend.
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Fingers crossed all good this time Zel 🙏
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I spotted this little Sony FDM-404 monitor on eBay with a very cheap buy it now a couple of days ago, listed as non working.

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Sure enough it was as dead as a doornail. Zero power consumption.

I had a hunch. This uses a 6V centre *negative* power connector (because of course it does) unlike the other 98.4% of the world, so if you use any old 6V adapter something will likely go pop.

In we go.

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Nothing obviously blown up, though hidden just behind those capacitors under the power switch is a fuse. A fuse which upon inspection turned out to be blown. Hmmm.

Quick look at the circuitry and hey look, there's protection built in which if you connect the supply backwards will present basically a dead short and pop the fuse. Oh if only more devices had that. I've only had a really quick glance at the schematics, but it looks like over voltage protection is also provided.

One new 1.25A fuse in and sure enough we had life.

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Image isn't bad at all for a device like this - obviously it wasn't ever designed to be used as a computer monitor so photos look better. The camera hasn't done it justice either. This is also straight out the box without me adjusting anything. It's sharp enough that dot crawl is an issue even at this size.

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I suspect the geometry will be a lot better if I chuck a new set of caps at this. Sony stuff from this era usually has issues with the electrolytics suffering from high ESR. Geometry isn't ever going to be perfect just due to limitations of the design of these CRTs - it's a wonder they managed to make them work at all.

Helpfully the service manuals from this era are decent (assuming you can find them), and have a full component list.

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So I can go and make sure I have them all in stock before going through it and changing them. Most look to be pretty standard values so I probably have them on the shelf (well technically in a box under the bed actually) so probably won't need to order much.

There's an obvious parallel between this and the Watchman of the same era - they both use the same bizarre CRT design. You can see a clear difference though when they're next to each other. CRT size being 1.8" and 4" respectively for a start.

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The Watchman also contains batteries and a tuner, whereas the one I've just been working on simply uses a composite input and has no battery supply - yet there's still that little spare space in there! I'll post the schematics when I'm at an actual PC later - for a monochrome composite monitor it's absurdly complex. I have to wonder how much of that is to handle the geometry correction - which must be a nightmare on this thing.
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That's fantastic Zel :cool:
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I do actually have all the necessary caps in stock it turns out. Might be a nice little project for some of the very limited downtime I have just now.

Interesting little demonstration here though of why it really is best to have the video source for a monochrome monitor that will be fed PAL or NTSC video just be greyscale.

Dot crawl. This is an artefact caused by the way colour information was essentially overlaid on top of the existing structure used for monochrome. This causes an interference pattern of fine dots, with the intensity of them being roughly proportional to the colour intensity.

Not really obvious on a cheap TV from the car side of the room, especially on moving video. However close up on something that's actually quite a bit sharper than a TV, and showing static images (bearing in mind this is essentially going to be running as an unnecessarily nerdy digital photo frame) it's quite conspicuous. Photo below for reference - ignore the wacky geometry. I've not touched that yet, and won't until the recap process is done as it currently drifts quite noticeably with temperature at the moment. It's the regular crosshatch like pattern on areas of the image which are relevant. The seats and hand rails of the bus interior are where it's the most obvious.

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Then exactly the same image but without the chroma data - the fact this is being fed via a VGA to composite adapter is useful here as I can just turn the saturation down to zero through the onscreen menu.

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Much cleaner.

Poking around with this thing testing this today I noticed another sign that this clearly isn't as simple as it looks - it has DC restoration. Something that's really quite obvious on most black and white televisions and most cheaper monitors is that the overall screen brightness across the whole display remains fairly constant irrespective of what's being displayed. This is most visible when you get situations either with a lot of or very little contrast. Jumping from a scene with a lot of light or lot of dark you would tend to notice the background black level drifting a bunch. The circuitry needed to avoid this sub optimal but not really problematic behaviour isn't a luxury I really expected on a little display intended to be used as an intercom display (I think a version with a slightly different case also was available as an accessory with some of their portable video cameras in the same era). It certainly isn't something that the modern clones of this have.

I do wonder precisely how many people had serious headaches trying to get the geometry in this CRT to work.

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The distance between the electron gun and the screen changes a bunch from top to bottom of the frame, and the actual difference in vertical terms is tiny. I imagine once you've done the math to work out the relationship it's not too hard to make the circuit work, but initially figuring that out must have taken a lot of work.
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Ahh yes, DC restoration (or black-level clamping). Some basic early sets didn't have it and for a while it became a quite a selling point in the more sophisticated sets - just like flywheel sync. was.

You're doing some good work there Zel :D A good way to spend time whilst the weather is not quite good for Rovering...
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The main switch on our network has been getting flaky. It refuses for some reason to properly retain the VLAN settings when going through a hard reset. This took me a while to figure out following a brownout a week or two back which caused it to reboot.

No huge loss as it's just a cheap domestic grade one that was a PC World special at the time and I was already two ports short of having run out of capacity on it anyway.

This on the other hand should keep me going for a while. So continues my quest to rid this house of consumer grade networking equipment.

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It's older than dirt but I really don't see that being a big issue for a piece of wired networking hardware in a domestic setting. Especially one that's downstream of the router and firewall anyway and where those are up to date.

It should see me through until we get to the point that I need to start catering for Cat6 network cabling - but as we don't have anything in the house demanding anything beyond gigabit Cat5 at the moment I'm leaving that as a problem for future me. Hopefully future me after we move house as the wired network here is honestly a mess as the construction of the house makes routing things an absolute pain (there's no access to the wall cavities from above or below).
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Gosh yes, that, by pro. IT standards, is now quite old... They are good and likely, better than current offerings. Pretty much bomb-proof in my experience and much more so than the old 3COM stuff we replaced with Cisco kit...

I well remember those from when I used to (allegedly) work for my living ;)

Although arguably, I've been sponging off the hard-working tax payer all my life :lol:
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Officially support only ended in 2023, so more recently than I expected.

I've never had a bad thing to say about Cisco gear from this era. Their setup UI requires a bit of acclimatisation and ideally a cheat sheet on hand of the commands you need if you're doing it through a serial terminal, but let's face it...once that's done you never have to touch it again.

Plus at least you CAN just plug a serial cable into the back of it if everything else fails. Rather than being entirely dependent on the network interface, which isn't much help when it's got itself into an invalid state. Yes 3Com, I'm looking at you.

Random nerd moment of the day was during puppy wrangling - sorry I mean training - this morning. Have continued to have the TV on in the background for the sake of my sanity, and have been continuing to work through Dr Who. We're up to 1979 now and series 16.

Suddenly my eye was caught by a bit of the set.

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Cue a distinct double take. I recognise that panel layout anywhere. That's the main cockpit control panel from an Apollo Command Module (or mockup of it, bit of a simulator or similar). Quite how it came to be in an episode of Dr Who though is anyone's guess - though not that much of a stretch given how much ended up just skipped once the program was cancelled in 1972. It was just "junk" by 1979. More likely than it being actual functional hardware though I reckon would be a mockup dating back to the BBC coverage of the program - though what they would have needed a full size fully fleshed out mockup of the CM console for I don't really know! You'd think diagrams, posters or photos would have done as good a job.
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If you look on eBay you can find a USB Cisco console cable for around £10. I have ended up with two of them (one from eBay, and one from a charity shop). I also have a couple of serial console cables, if needed.
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Thankfully finding a proper serial/null modem cable and a machine with a proper serial port in this house isn't too much of an ask!
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