Zel's Fleet Blog - BX, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D & 230TE, AC Model 70.

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Expectant father time Zel ;)
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I bet he's pacing backwards and forwards around the living room looking out the window waiting for it's arrival.
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Another item on Zels' shopping list is a new carpet, as he has worn the one in the living room down to the fibres!
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Hell Razor5543 wrote: 19 Jun 2025, 18:20 Another item on Zels' shopping list is a new carpet, as he has worn the one in the living room down to the fibres!
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Has the car turned up yet???
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We've also got guests so I've been having to juggle quite a few things this evening!

Car is here!
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Hopefully might get more of a chance to look at things in any detail tomorrow.
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Congratulations Zel :D

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That's a lovely shade of blue. It looks like absolute luxury, looks like heaven compared to the Trabant!
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How about this, a former Brum music company. :)
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Well I do have a bit of an update to write it seems because I was unable to get onto this forum for a few days. Helpfully we did have guests staying until a couple of days ago so I've not had any real good chance to dig into things. So you haven't missed anything too groundbreaking.

One of the first items on the to do list to investigate on the car was the lack of any action from the brake light on the dash. Lifting the float out of the fluid reservoir however brought the light on correctly.

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As this car has single circuit brakes I am considering this warning light to be a very safety critical component. Especially given that the reservoir is a metal one so there's no way to check the level without taking the cap off and peering into it. So the odds of spotting a level drop in passing is slim to none. If there's a suitable master cylinder for it a dual circuit conversion is something I would definitely consider as a long term upgrade for peace of mind. Quite simply I Do Not Like single circuit braking systems. Especially on a car as heavy as this, and one which despite the looks is going to be quite happily howling along keeping pace with modern traffic.

One question which springs to mind is whether anyone recognises the colour. It's clearly not original to the car, it was originally a significantly darker shade - which is still visible in a few areas, like the door hinges and under the bonnet.

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Sadly as we have no history on the car aside from a couple of 15 year old MOT certificates, I've no idea whether this is a Rover/BMC colour at all and if it is, which one. Tahiti Blue isn't a million miles off but I think is a bit too cyan heavy. I know the purists might not like it, but I do really like the colour and am going to be completely honest with you in that that was something which really did draw me to the car in the first place. Blue and chrome is a particular favourite of mine.

I will be needing some.paint both for inevitable touch ups, but also because the boot lid really needs to be done over from scratch. I don't know quite what the story there is, but there seems to be an absolute tonne of filler on there, and either that or the paint has shrunk as it's cured.

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This is an aluminium panel (I think they called the exact alloy Birmabrite) and they're known to be really easy to dent - so I'm guessing they've been dressing it up to cover a dent. Personally I don't mind a few dings here and there on a car this age. My intention with this car is to preserve, maintain but USE it, so getting this sorted in a way that's sensible and not going to start doing nonsense like this again six months down the line will be the order of the day. It won't be babied though. That's a fair ways down the priority list though. I do need to try to figure out how to reassemble the latch for the boot lid though. I *think* I have all the bits of it at least.

Electrical issues are going to be a recurring theme I reckon until I've gone through the car pretty much end to end.

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I'm suuuuure those areas aren't going to cause me issues, they're fiiiiine...

Apparently I need to glue the window guide on the driver's window back in place. This dropped out while I was backing into the drive and it just about scared me to death.

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While shuffling into the parking space (yes, the steering is just as bloody heavy as I remember from the last one, that really is the one black mark against them) I noted that there was a really obvious buzz/rattle from the exhaust towards the back of the car.

Ah, yes. This won't be helping in that regard.

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On the plus side at least the mid and rear sections of the exhaust at a glance look to be stainless. The missing fastener there wasn't hard to replace either. Washer is a bit too big and the bolt is too long but it was just what I had on hand. It doesn't rattle any more though.

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Those poor springs could do with a clean and grease though.

A full set of hoses for the cooling system came with the car. This is nice as the ones on there are...well a bit on the crunchy side.

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Some have obviously been changed, but a fair few look to be ancient. I can't just do a straight swap of them all yet though as I also need to change the thermostat housing because someone has put one from another model on which means the top hose is coming out pointing in the wrong direction. Sure this is doing wonders for coolant flow.

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That hose should be coming straight up off the thermostat housing. I have a new one (and a thermostat) on the way.

A few goodies have already arrived.

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A replacement for this very crispy bit of fuel line between the sediment bowl and carb being probably the most safety critical.

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Glad to see that the replacement one from Wadham's is made from the good stuff, so this should be properly fit and forget.

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The reason I included a new badge is pretty obvious. How hazy and crazed this is really sticks out because it's so prominent on the front of the car. It actually looks worse in person than in the photo.

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This hasn't actually been swapped yet as I haven't figured out how to get the old one off yet.

One of the other white boxes contained parts needed for another quick and easy improvement.

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After:

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If only everything would be that quick and easy!

I'm out of time for this update now, but will pick up where we left off tomorrow.
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Excellent :D Any good automotive paintshop should be able to analyse the paint and advise on its provenance Zel...
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Does it have a brake servo? If so, a split brake conversion would entail fitting the Lockheed system as used on the P6 and E-type. Complicated plumbing and expensive.
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xantia_v6 wrote: 26 Jun 2025, 06:22 Does it have a brake servo? If so, a split brake conversion would entail fitting the Lockheed system as used on the P6 and E-type. Complicated plumbing and expensive.
Balls. I hadn't thought of the fact I'd need to change the servo as well. I've done the conversion on a couple of cars before, but always ones with manual brakes so had missed that. The servo on this is virtually brand new. Looking at the prices though there's not a huge price difference between the two parts so if I did go down that road could probably recoup a bit of the costs by selling on the one I have here. So long as it physically fits in the same space anyway - it's pretty tight in there. Not really too fussed about the plumbing involved, brake lines aren't too difficult to form and at the end of the day you're only doing it once.

We are getting a bit ahead of ourselves though and messing around with things like that really isn't going to happen until we've dealt with all the more immediate actual concerns and the car has proven itself to be a viable proposition longer term. Then we can start looking at wishlist items.

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When the car arrived the fuel gauge was on the non operational items list. Though the gauge itself was clearly getting power as the oil level check function worked and they both derive power from the same source. The switch just selects which of the two sender units the gauge is grounded through.

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The sender in the tank is new - and a bit of quite testing revealed that while power was getting to the gauge it wasn't getting to the tank.

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In we go...

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While this looks horribly complicated at first glance it's actually a lot of very simple circuits just bundled into a fairly tight space - and the bit we're interested in is easily accessible on the side nearest the camera.

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59 is the fuel gauge instrument itself. 60 is the changeover switch to select whether you're reading fuel or oil level. 71 is the oil level sender, and 72 is the fuel level sender. It didn't take long to figure out that the primary issue we have here is that the switch is dead. It was also wired up backwards. The switch will need to be replaced (or repaired) in the long term, but for now I've just employed an old fashioned jumper wire to hook the fuel gauge up directly.

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This appears to be over-reading a bit if the fuel level reported by the seller is correct. Though that was also the case with my previous car - and I've not checked whether the voltage stabiliser for the fuel and temperature gauges is actually working. If it's feeding in straight system voltage rather than dropping it to the right (10V from memory) level it would indeed read somewhere in the region of 20% high.

I haven't actually had the engine running long enough to see if the temperature gauge works, though I'm pretty sure I have seen it at least come off the stop so most likely does.

A definite appointment lays in the future of this engine with a bunch of degreaser and the pressure washer as it's really quite a slimy mess. On the same note a set of valve cover gaskets is already in stock to hopefully reduce the amount of oil loss. Given I had to change it on the previous car there's also an inlet manifold gasket in stock just in case.

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A very obvious error that someone has made was refitting the front indicators and sidelights the wrong way around. The indicators should be at the top. I did look into getting this righted yesterday but it quickly became apparent that this wasn't going to be the ten minute job I'd hoped.

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That's an *ideal* connector for an area that's going to get blasted with road spray isn't it?

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I guess on the plus side the wires are actually secured rather than just twisted together as under this mass of tape. That all leads back to this mess.

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Who needs grommets where wiring passes through metal panels? Seems like overkill to me...Yeah, I'm just going to chop all that mess out and do the line from the lights to the main loom from scratch I think. While I'm at it given that they're fairly inexpensive I think I'm just going to replace all the light fittings while I'm there. Out of the four three of them have major corrosion, are missing their rubber boots and at least one the lamp holder is pretty much being held together by the tape. Just changing them seems like it's going to cause by far the least long term headaches. Plus the sidelights aren't actually the correct type for the car anyway.

I think that's us caught up with where I got to by yesterday afternoon now.
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Target today was the cooling system as this replacement part arrived this morning.

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The original has seen better days.

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That was discovered the day before the car was due to be collected, cue some bodgery to get the system water tight to allow the car to run. A piece of intercooler ducting they had floating around was pressed into service.

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By the standards of "get-me-home bodges" this one is actually pretty sturdy. It was properly fluid tight and I've definitely spent a week or two commuting with things held together by willpower far worse than that.

I had been kind of dreading tackling the bottom radiator hose though. Primarily as the bottom hose was utterly welded onto the outlet stub on the radiator. Access to this isn't great as it's buried a long way down in the engine bay (which is really deep on this car) and there's no access from underneath because there's a huge cross member in the way. I was about five minutes from pulling the whole radiator in that case when I eventually managed to get it free.

This one thankfully just came apart without any real protest. So this corner was sorted in a matter of minutes.

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The eagle eyed of you might have noticed something amiss with the engine bay in general (aside from the kinked top radiator hose, I have the part inbound to sort that hopefully tomorrow, and the dayglow red HT leads which look madly out of place).

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Yes, someone has been meddling with the heater hose routing. That hose vanishing under the air cleaner roughly centre frame should actually be hooked up to a rigid line that runs above the exhaust manifold - which also should have a little heat shield attached to it to protect the distributor. Demonstrated nicely by this photo from my previous 110.

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That rigid line, bracket and heat shield are all missing. Which obviously caused a problem for me when I came to fit the new hoses as we had a bit of a gap.

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However this is me. So there's a pile of random "stuff" in the back corner of the garage which I deliberately haven't binned because they are things which likely will be useful one day. I went shopping in that corner and soon dug out a bit of metal tubing that was exactly the right diameter.

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It is really thin walled but will do fine for now until I can track down something better.

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If nothing else I'll paint it black so it blends in a bit better.

This side of things went pretty smoothly. The other side of the engine bay however was an absolute fight and ended up taking well over an hour of cursing.

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The lower heater hose (you can just see it between the rear crankcase breather and the blower motor) runs down to a fitting attached to the rear of the inlet manifold and then carries on to a fitting roughly halfway along the underside of the inlet manifold.

This caused a lot of swearing. Because whoever assembled it clearly put the hose clamps on *before* attaching the fitting to the rear of the manifold. Then they rounded off the bolt that holds the bracket on. I just about managed to get the top one off and changed after a lot of faffing around.

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The bottom one however was having none of it, the hose clamp was totally seized up. Plus you couldn't get a screwdriver properly on to it because it's directly behind the throttle linkage.

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Eventually I managed to cram on a metric ring spanner that was one size too small onto the bolt and got the bracket off, so I could pull the whole lot off and attack the hose clip off the car.

This probably would have been easier if I'd taken the intake duct off but I was being stubbornly lazy and refusing to do that. Despite it probably being all of about five minutes work.

These were definitely past due for replacement.

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You can pretty clearly see why I really didn't want to drive the car anywhere before I changed them.

The package with the thermostat housing in should be here tomorrow which will let me get the top hose changed as well, getting rid of the kink in that. I think that will get us to a point where I can actually go for a test drive without worrying that the cooling system is going to spectacularly fail at any moment.

The last thing I checked today was the voltage stabiliser on the dash - and confirmed that it is doing absolutely nothing. So that would explain why the fuel gauge is reading ~20% too high. The temperature gauge will be doing the same. New one ordered.
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Excellent work and progress Zel :D
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