Zel's Fleet Blog - BX, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D & 230TE, AC Model 70.

Tell us your ongoing tales and experiences with your French car here. Post pictures of your car here as well.
User avatar
Zelandeth
Donor 2024
Posts: 5040
Joined: 16 Nov 2014, 23:36
x 1505

Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - Xantia Activa, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D, AC Model 70.

Unread post by Zelandeth »

With everything going on just now I'm only getting the odd few minutes here and there to do anything relating to the cars. Despite that the structural improvements to the nearside of the Invacar floor have been finished and I've started cutting the carpet to fit.

Image

You can start to get a feel for how it's going to look now I think.

Image

Image

These are the new kick plates that might be going in.

Image

I'm still undecided...whether they get used or not will probably depend on whether I can get the originals back to a vaguely presentable state...currently they're awful.

I'm basically making the left carpet, right carpet (which is *mostly* just a mirror image) then will cut an infill to go in the middle.

Nothing is being glued in place yet. Before that happens I need to rotate the car 180 degrees so I can do the same knackered rivet replacement on the offside, paint the seat base, find a rubber boot for the gear selector linkage where it passes through the bulkhead and thoroughly degrease the entire floor and front bulkhead. Depending on how things sit I may apply some foam underlay. I think that this will really make a huge difference to the feel of the interior.

As the seat can only be moved a few inches to either side I'm also doing away with the sliding capacity. Two bolts will be going through the rear of the frame to secure it in place. As the latch is at the front of the frame the rear of the seat tends to shift an inch or so every time you change direction, and it's quite annoying. If someone wants to undo it in the future it will just require a couple of bolts to be removed. Should make the driving experience a bit more pleasant. The seat wobbling around really doesn't instill confidence, so I'd really like to stop it doing that. I reckon this is probably more of an issue with my seat than it would be with the original as this provides a lot more lateral support than the original one would have.
Current fleet:
07 Volvo V70 SE D5, 88 Renault 25 Monaco, 85 Sinclair C5, 84 Trabant 601S, 73 AC Model 70, 62 Rover 110.
User avatar
Zelandeth
Donor 2024
Posts: 5040
Joined: 16 Nov 2014, 23:36
x 1505

Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - Xantia Activa, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D, AC Model 70.

Unread post by Zelandeth »

This is actually starting to look like I've got any idea what I'm doing...

Image

The joins will be far less visible once things are actually glued down. Plus the bar across the middle isn't bolted down at the offside yet hence the bump there.
Current fleet:
07 Volvo V70 SE D5, 88 Renault 25 Monaco, 85 Sinclair C5, 84 Trabant 601S, 73 AC Model 70, 62 Rover 110.
User avatar
Michel
(Donor 2022)
Posts: 2376
Joined: 29 May 2017, 13:50
x 714

Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - Xantia Activa, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D, AC Model 70.

Unread post by Michel »

The restoration and reviving of your Invacar, is, quite honestly the most interesting thing on the Internet.
User avatar
Zelandeth
Donor 2024
Posts: 5040
Joined: 16 Nov 2014, 23:36
x 1505

Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - Xantia Activa, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D, AC Model 70.

Unread post by Zelandeth »

Michel wrote: 03 Oct 2020, 23:59 The restoration and reviving of your Invacar, is, quite honestly the most interesting thing on the Internet.
Nice to know my nonsense is interesting! It's definitely been a learning experience for me.

-- -- --

New offside outer "sill" made up from some ally sheet and bolted in place.

Image

I tapped the edge at the overlap flat with a hammer, though as this will be under both the carpet and sill kick plate I'm not really too bothered about how it looks.

I then went on a similar rivet replacement mission as I did on the nearside before giving everything a thorough wipe down then starting to get the carpet glued in.

After an hour or so getting distinctly high on carpet adhesive fumes we were three or four pieces away from the floor being done.

Image

Closer look at where it's following the contour of the front bulkhead to show how well it's formed.

Image

Yes I fouled up the bit by the steering yoke bracket...an infill will be cut to disguise that oops.

Image

Sadly three or four pieces short of being finished I ran out of time! Annoying having to stop so close to being finished, but that's how it goes sometimes.

Should get it finished tomorrow and get things put back together tomorrow. Have a few more bits to fit as trim but they're a bit less of a faff than the floor where you're working around the seat base.
Current fleet:
07 Volvo V70 SE D5, 88 Renault 25 Monaco, 85 Sinclair C5, 84 Trabant 601S, 73 AC Model 70, 62 Rover 110.
User avatar
CitroJim
A very naughty boy
Posts: 53234
Joined: 30 Apr 2005, 23:33
x 7402

Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - Xantia Activa, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D, AC Model 70.

Unread post by CitroJim »

Excellent work Zel :D If you want to do some more carpeting I have a whole house that needs doing ;)

Seriously, that's finishing off the Invacar project a treat :D
Jim

Runner, cyclist, duathlete, Citroen AX fan and the CCC Citroenian 'From A to Z' Columnist...
User avatar
Zelandeth
Donor 2024
Posts: 5040
Joined: 16 Nov 2014, 23:36
x 1505

Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - Xantia Activa, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D, AC Model 70.

Unread post by Zelandeth »

Carpeting is generally one of those jobs I avoid like the plague! Even this job has resulted in me inventing several new expletives. It's made easier by the fact that the pile and pattern of this carpet make it pretty easy to make invisible joins.

Just had another bit of fun out walking the dogs, got about 1/4 a mile only to be turned around by armed police, instructed firmly to return home and to get and stay inside.

Another day in paradise...
Current fleet:
07 Volvo V70 SE D5, 88 Renault 25 Monaco, 85 Sinclair C5, 84 Trabant 601S, 73 AC Model 70, 62 Rover 110.
User avatar
CitroJim
A very naughty boy
Posts: 53234
Joined: 30 Apr 2005, 23:33
x 7402

Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - Xantia Activa, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D, AC Model 70.

Unread post by CitroJim »

Zelandeth wrote: 05 Oct 2020, 14:18 Carpeting is generally one of those jobs I avoid like the plague!
Same here! Only carpeting I've done in years is laying some second-hand carpet tiles I rescued from a skip in my workshop... They make a heck of a difference to the comfort of working in there and being industrial ones are proving very durable...
Zelandeth wrote: 05 Oct 2020, 14:18 Just had another bit of fun out walking the dogs, got about 1/4 a mile only to be turned around by armed police, instructed firmly to return home and to get and stay inside.
I heard there was an 'incident' taking place in your neck of the woods on the local radio but they have not given any further details as yet. Must be something very serious...

I did think of you when I heard it and pleased you're OK :D
Jim

Runner, cyclist, duathlete, Citroen AX fan and the CCC Citroenian 'From A to Z' Columnist...
User avatar
Zelandeth
Donor 2024
Posts: 5040
Joined: 16 Nov 2014, 23:36
x 1505

Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - Xantia Activa, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D, AC Model 70.

Unread post by Zelandeth »

I think it's fair to call this is looking a bit more welcoming.

Image

Image

Here's a "before" photo for reference.

Image

It's astonishing how a bit of trim can change the feel of the cabin.

The offside kick plate still needs to be secured, but I need direct access to that side of the car for that so it needs the rain to stop for five minutes.

There will be a few more bits to go in. To name one I'll be lining the door cavities in matching carpet, and the roof will get some at some point. That may well be a lighter colour and be actual automotive carpet though so it's easier to shape though...and will likely wait a while as removing the roof will make lining it massively less awkward.
Current fleet:
07 Volvo V70 SE D5, 88 Renault 25 Monaco, 85 Sinclair C5, 84 Trabant 601S, 73 AC Model 70, 62 Rover 110.
User avatar
NewcastleFalcon
Posts: 26252
Joined: 25 Feb 2009, 10:40
x 7084

Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - Xantia Activa, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D, AC Model 70.

Unread post by NewcastleFalcon »

I spotted this on a paddle around Leboncoin for amusement. Tidy Lancia Trevi.

https://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/1837815592.htm/

Regards Neil
Only One AA Box left
687 Trinity, Jersey
User avatar
Zelandeth
Donor 2024
Posts: 5040
Joined: 16 Nov 2014, 23:36
x 1505

Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - Xantia Activa, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D, AC Model 70.

Unread post by Zelandeth »

Trying to get the offside kick plate refitted today. Having the slightly frustrating situation that any bolts long enough to actually catch and clamp everything together are then long enough that they foul on the door runner when you try to open/close the door.

I think I may well just go for attaching the new kick plate on this side (which will go over the top of the original one to retain the exterior section which stops you getting grease all over your trousers getting in/out) which will allow me to re-drill the mounting holes in positions which don't get in the way of the door mechanism. This kick plate is in a royal mess anyway so I'd rather cover it up anyway. The nearside one just needs a good paint really...this one however is a bit mangled and has a lot more corrosion on than the other one.

Image

Might be a job for this weekend.
Current fleet:
07 Volvo V70 SE D5, 88 Renault 25 Monaco, 85 Sinclair C5, 84 Trabant 601S, 73 AC Model 70, 62 Rover 110.
User avatar
Zelandeth
Donor 2024
Posts: 5040
Joined: 16 Nov 2014, 23:36
x 1505

Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - Xantia Activa, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D, AC Model 70.

Unread post by Zelandeth »

After attending the funeral of a friend this morning I found myself with a couple of hours free this afternoon so I decided to try to crack on with getting the offside kick plate sorted.

After a couple of hours of hitting things with hammers and swearing at it we had the kick plate in place. Once I got the bolts in I was able to pull the kink out at least. They'll both want to be stripped and painted but that's a job for another day. Will be a hammered black finish we'll go with to match some of the other details in the cabin.


Image

Then the seal was reattached. These will be changed for tubular section seals at some point as I reckon they will work far better.

Image

This was the last part of this project which involved stuff being apart so I was able to remove all the tools and nonsense from in the car and put things back together again. Longest job there was finding the seatbelt which I had helpfully hung over a hook on the garage wall...right in front of my blind face. Took me half an hour to spot it. Idiot.

Image

Image

From the previous round of work I noticed that the side "cheek" behind the windscreen washer bottle clearly had lifted while the adhesive was curing before (lack of patience on my part likely to blame as it was the last bit I fitted). So this was peeled back re-glued and was left with a screwdriver wedged behind the washer bottle for half an hour or so to keep it sitting flush. Sorted.

Image

While I'm calling this job fundamentally done there are a couple of bits which will want a little further attention.

[] Parcel shelf. I'm 1/3 of a time short of having enough left to cover that. This is probably the most important one as it's where about 80% of the mechanical noise in the cabin gets in. I'm probably going to put some actual Dynamat or similar on there as well for that reason.

[] Door cavities. To match the visual aspect of the rectangular cutout at the base, and to help cut down drumming from these pretty large flat panels.

[] I may also do the windscreen pillars as the black semi gloss paint on there is *really* bad for reflections when the sun is even vaguely low. Plus the metal is quite pitted in a few areas so it would look tidier.

[] Sun visor panel. This was originally fabric lined from the factory, I stripped and painted it because the original material was decomposing, but it would feel appropriate to return it to a soft finish. Especially as the roof will be done somewhere down the line.

Lining the roof itself is what I'm terming "phase 2" of this project. That's something I will probably tackle next year. I'll use a lighter coloured material for that, and will probably go for actual automotive trim to maximise audio absorption, minimise weight and get something that's easier to work with. I'll also remove the roof from the car to make access far easier. Being able to flip the whole moulding upside down will make the job massively easier I think.

I only had time for a quick test run round the block today. Initial impressions though are that the apparent noise levels in the cabin even from the work done so far are vastly reduced. You can actually best wind noise above 40 now which was never the case before, so it's definitely helped! The panel being more firmly fastened down has helped improve the feeling of solidity too as it's not rumbling and vibrating under your feet half as much. Hoping I might be able to get a proper test drive in tomorrow.

It has definitely highlighted that I need to make a sealing boot/plug for the cable passthrough in the rear bulkhead where the overhead control box cables to through as you can clearly hear a lot of mechanical noise is coming through there now that a lot of the other avenues have been cut off. The overall job was to improve the interior though and it feels like we've definitely achieved that aim.

When I first started the car up it became apparent that the carb was lacking a working idle circuit again, presumably due to a bit of grime finding its way into the (tiny) idle jet. This cleared after a few minutes of running thankfully...but the reason it happened quickly became apparent.

Image

If you look closely you can see the metal cap over the end of the filter element in the fuel filter has broken away. I'm really getting hacked off with how hard it's getting to find decent quality consumables these days. Think I'll see about getting some filters from a marine specialist as I did with the fuel lines, being a more safety conscious field hopefully the quality control will be better...
Current fleet:
07 Volvo V70 SE D5, 88 Renault 25 Monaco, 85 Sinclair C5, 84 Trabant 601S, 73 AC Model 70, 62 Rover 110.
User avatar
CitroJim
A very naughty boy
Posts: 53234
Joined: 30 Apr 2005, 23:33
x 7402

Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - Xantia Activa, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D, AC Model 70.

Unread post by CitroJim »

Excellent work Zel :D
Jim

Runner, cyclist, duathlete, Citroen AX fan and the CCC Citroenian 'From A to Z' Columnist...
User avatar
Zelandeth
Donor 2024
Posts: 5040
Joined: 16 Nov 2014, 23:36
x 1505

Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - Xantia Activa, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D, AC Model 70.

Unread post by Zelandeth »

I think I can now say that Phase 1 of the Invacar retrim project is complete.

Image

Image

Image

Image

Having been out to run a few errands today I can definitely vouch for the fact that the general noise levels have been vastly reduced. By far the most annoying thing in that regard now is the nearside door which rattles quite a bit. I think if we get some better seals in there I'm hoping that might improve things in that department, we'll see. I suspect that there's a certain element of "they just do that" due to the design though. As it is though the car is far more pleasant to travel in now than it was.

Phase 2 will be lining the roof and replacing the cracked dash moulding with my spare one...not sure when that will happen, but likely a job for either the depths of winter or early next year I think.

I'm quite pleased with how this project has turned out, especially as I've never done anything like this before.

Additionally the fuel filter which had fallen apart internally...

Image

...Has now been replaced.

Image

I have a glass bodied filter which can be serviced on the way as I'm guessing all of these filters in the bag are likely as bad as each other.
Current fleet:
07 Volvo V70 SE D5, 88 Renault 25 Monaco, 85 Sinclair C5, 84 Trabant 601S, 73 AC Model 70, 62 Rover 110.
User avatar
mickthemaverick
Moderating Team
Posts: 16342
Joined: 11 May 2019, 17:56
x 6872

Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - Xantia Activa, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D, AC Model 70.

Unread post by mickthemaverick »

Looks really comfy now Zel, well done!! :)
I used to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure!
I used to ride on two wheels, but now I need all four!
User avatar
Zelandeth
Donor 2024
Posts: 5040
Joined: 16 Nov 2014, 23:36
x 1505

Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - Xantia Activa, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D, AC Model 70.

Unread post by Zelandeth »

I noticed last time I was out in TPA that there seemed to be a bit more wobble in the top of the nearside door when I closed it (you need to give it a good old slam, and that puts a lot of strain on the top of the door because of where the pull handle is - usually I open the window and pull on the door top for that reason, but it was raining hence not wanting to open the window!). A quick check today revealed that the rearmost bolt through the window runner into the door top was loose. Not sure if I just didn't tighten it enough of if it had just worked loose. For good measure I added a shakeproof washer before I put it back together today. I will need to try to convince everyone for the next few days that I've not been self harming...Just reaching one of the most awkward fasteners on the Invacar! You can see why they used rivets originally.

Image

Now the interior of TPA is looking so much tidier it's really starting to show up some of my earlier bodges. Especially the "repair" for the split in the top of the nearside door.

Image

I'm open to suggestions for the best way to repair this. I was reluctant to use glass fibre/resin at the time as this goes right down the hole for the rear latch, and is directly above the latch mechanism and the last thing I want to do is goop that full of resin! Especially as this is the door that I actually use as the other one has issues with the runner. If it was on the other side I wouldn't be quite so bothered!

Yes I fouled up the measurement on the bit of carpet at the base of that door. I've got another piece cut out in the right size (actually measured with a tape measure rather than eyeball) waiting to go in. I didn't realise how bad it was until I saw the photos.

I stumbled across a box of things I bought a few weeks ago for the van and promptly forgot about. Some little self contained rechargeable lights which have IR sensors so they can detect when doors in front of them are opened. These have been deployed in the kitchen cupboard and a couple of lockers which are kind of black holes without illumination. The results speak for themselves I think.

Image

They have magnets in the back and just attach to metal plates which stick or screw in place where you want them to go. The package quote something like three months of runtime on one charge. I've little interest in that, this is the sort of thing that we'd just make a point of charging them before we were actually going out to use the van for camping.

Image

Image

Under sink cupboard is probably the biggest gain.

Image

Really quite impressed with them to be honest. £11 for the set of six I think it was from Costco. As with most things from there, they feel really well made.
Current fleet:
07 Volvo V70 SE D5, 88 Renault 25 Monaco, 85 Sinclair C5, 84 Trabant 601S, 73 AC Model 70, 62 Rover 110.