FORD Ka 2011 1.3 TDCi EGR FAULT

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Well a long day getting the EGR valve off:
EGR Valve
EGR Valve
Hardly any soot built up
EGR Valve
EGR Valve
Certainly visually clean enough
Wounds
Wounds
Luckily I don’t have massive arms but the access is the worst I’ve ever encountered!

Problem seems to be a sticking valve (closed)

The solenoid was reading 8 Ohms which I’m guessing is adequate enough :?:

I stripped the solenoid off which was joined with liquid gasket, hence why I couldn’t separate it in situ.

I couldn’t move the valve with my thumb but after a small tap on the valve arm with a rubber mallet it moved. It is very tacky and despite having freed it off it again stuck closed when re-tested.

Soaking the valve and scrubbed with a small straw-cleaning nylon brush overnight ….I couldn’t see a way of removing the valve from the solenoid side for more thorough cleaning but given the lack of carbon it already sounds more ‘metallic’ on closing/mating.

It would appear that the JLM cleaner was ineffective in this situation as the valve face wasn’t in contact with the exhaust gases as it was already stuck closed and not operating, hopefully it will be free enough tomorrow to have a positive test before refitting…try for solenoid photos tomorrow ….and hopefully get it back in position.
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Interesting stuff Skull...
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Cheers Jim Glad you’ve had a good day :mrgreen:

Solenoid pictures as promised for those who like that kind of thing ….
Skull’s - valve held open and soaked overnight
Skull’s - valve held open and soaked overnight
Skull’s - EGR visible valve
Skull’s - EGR visible valve
Half of the valve, I think there’s another port, left of picture on the shaft, that should only get minimal exposure when the valve opens.

Well 6 hours of my life today underneath this bugger ….

Solenoid tested satisfactory with a 10p piece protecting my thumb, wired up to the battery and it’s strong enough to open the valve now it’s been de-gummed, so reassembly has begun but progress has been painfully slow with a cold snap and a snow flurry to boot today …I was in my T-shirt yesterday!!

I think the valve body is mounted but I need to check tomorrow and maybe borrow my neighbours endoscope to confirm the EGR exhaust port gasket remained in place, there was no mention on the Elring website that the gasket required a liquid gasket in addition, but there was traces on the previous gasket and mating faces of a supplement. The only one I had handy was Dirko +300 degree Celcius.
Skull’s - Exhaust port which is invisible without an iPhone
Skull’s - Exhaust port which is invisible without an iPhone
An endoscope would have been handy today to help locate/align everything ‘blind’ it really is an ‘impossible’ DIY job …no wonder Ford doesn’t seem to want the job :^o

I also think a threaded bar/stud might have helped guide it on, if it helped make the location more visible :dunno:

Tune in tomorrow for hopefully a finished job …unless it snows :snowman:
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Good work Skull :D It looks like a right 'mare and then some :twisted:

Fingers crossed all is now happy. Roll on the next episode ;)
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Well good news it’s all back together,

5 hours yesterday just to get the EGR valve back on with poor light somehow making it harder to do the work even though I was literally working blind :juggle:

The day finished with uncertainty as I had to torque up before the silicone gasket set to the new gasket. My iPhone deciding that it wasn’t going to shine a light for the video to confirm everything was located correctly, as it was down to 18% battery power.

Today started late while trying to locate the neighbours endoscope, it wasn’t the simple one I remembered borrowing before. The idea I thought would be a good one, but wasted time messing with my laptop trying to load software that failed and broke my hinge when the neighbours wife got all excited and slammed the screen down to see what make laptop it was, before I could say NO the hinge doesn’t work :evil:

That new job aside, I ended up getting confirmation of a (in)/correct assembly, with the iPhone in the end, yes here comes the bad news :oops:
Skull’s - gasket located incorrectly
Skull’s - gasket located incorrectly
BUGGER it’s about 80 degrees out, the bolts have apparently both let go of their respective holes!

The decision was made to continue and hope for the best … today’s 5 hour shift, re-fitting the c-clamp on the exhaust to inlet flange, remember the metal shim! This was done to a fashion from above the engine. Nothing seems easy…it’s now expected and accepted….then the coolant pipes B first, the suspect pin-prick one, lubed up with KY jelly on the inside and wrapped in amalgamating tape on the outside, with 2 jubilee clip on the suspect area, trying to tighten these with only one arm available in the space takes more time as it tries to spin away from you :grr: Hour of fun…no problem.

Onto pipe D just lubed up with KY, jubilee clip located prior to inserting. I initially decided this would be inserted PRIOR to fixing the ERG valve as the pipe was hard to remove, but it never happened that way in the end….

Solution was to remove the 3x 13mm bolts on the gear linkage anchor plate fixed on top of the gearbox to give some much needed room for the pipe to slip on easier with a straighter run and the easiest jubilee clip of the job to be tightened up. Refit the gear linkage anchor plate and bolts you doughnut.

Back on the top area of the engine now for EGR solenoid plug fitting and lock tab engaged.

Just the air box to be fitted, MAF fitted and lock-tab engaged. Intake piping located and secured with large R-clip. Battery Earth re-connected …. DON’T forget the coolant, I’ve reused the old long-life as I still don’t know if this is a rehearsal for when (I mean IF [-o< ) the EML light re-appears (dodgy gasket :oops: )

Initially started up fine and whilst warming and topping up the coolant on what appears to be an easy self-bleeding coolant system, an 11 mile shake down run during rush hour (no pressure) revealed no coolant leaks and no warning lights and a couple of burbs of coolant added to restore correct levels.

Tomorrow is either a longer run to test the EGR valve and see if any warning lights reappear …Nighty Night :zzz:
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Oh gosh - what a ball-ache Skull :twisted:

Fingers crossed it does have a happy ending and all will be well on today's testing [-o<
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Skull wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 23:44 Well good news it’s all back together …

Tomorrow is a longer run to test the EGR valve and see if any warning lights reappear …Nighty Night :zzz:
Well I’ve covered 79 miles since re-fitting including a dual-carriageway run of 50 miles today and the verdict is :dunno: ….
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Despite the bodged gasket it seems to be running OK
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Well done that man!! :-D
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Cheers Jim / Mick :roll:
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Excellent news :cool: That's made me smile :D
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