Electric Cars:what's available?

[myglaren]

Have we had these? "Build Your Dreams"

[NewcastleFalcon]

Like MG/Great Wall before them BYD are setting up an infrastructure to sell their vehicles in the UK.

BYD targets 100 UK Car Dealerships by 2025
https://www.am-online.com/news/manufact ... rk-by-2025

As with MG the cars will be at a competitive price without necessarily breaking the existing price structure with Chinese prices not likely to be offered in the European Market with disruptive discounting. More foot in the door, but a company with the potential to disrupt, very vertically integrated, and BYD Taxis and Buses on the roads of the UK already, and advanced in Battery Tech and a supplier to other auto manufacturers as well as a having portfolio of electric car models themselves, and actively expanding outside China.

Great Wall Motors build up UK dealer network in 2023
https://www.am-online.com/news/manufact ... rk-in-2023
The dealer network for the UK's newest car brand entrant, GWM Ora, is hoped to reach 16 locations by the end of 2023 as sales of its electric vehicles mount up.

Neil

[Gibbo2286]

Already here Neil are the former LDV vans now selling as Maxus by the Chinese, and the Chinese MGs. The local company selling the MGs, Winner Garage, has been selling Skodas for years, even before Skoda was taken over by VW.
https://www.maxusgloucestershire.co.uk/
https://dealer.mg.co.uk/winner-cinderford

[NewcastleFalcon]

Now this is probably a very good example of how when they eventually make their way to Europe from China they come at a "lets not ruffle the feathers of the market too much yet" pricing.

From 2021

Avid readers of the this thread will have come across Great Wall's Ora Brand. Would have liked it to be a little more disruptive in price point. Chinese Standard Price £11,500, but unfortunately Europe's market is overpriced, and who would blame them for looking at the spec of their own car, and the competition, and just pricing it at a start price of £25,000 (before plug in grant) couple of thousand under its rivals, rather than being truly disruptive.

2023 Car available in the UK


Neil

[myglaren]

https://www.polestar.com/uk/polestar-3/]Polestar 3 UK.

[Sloppysod]

Is it me or are there a lot of Mercedes & BMW EV's around, they seem to be more popular than Teslas around here?

Appologies if this is the wrong thread

[NewcastleFalcon]

Is it me or are there a lot of Mercedes & BMW EV's around, they seem to be more popular than Teslas around here?

Appologies if this is the wrong thread

Would agree plenty of them around these parts too along with Polestars and E-Trons There is the occasional fake though!

I did think that the MG5 SW was indeed the only fully electric station wagon on the market right now, but have a look at this, it's a station wagon or estate car surely, from BMW and a bit pricier than the MG... oops! its got a bloomin' exhaust pipe....what the heck is it doing with a green stripe on the plate.

Neil

[CitroJim]

Maybe it's a dummy tailpipe...

[mickthemaverick]

More likely a dummy green flash to escape ulez charges!

[Sloppysod]

More likely a dummy green flash to escape ulez charges!

Surely people are not that stupid and understand what ANPR stands for!
Is it illegal to have a green flash, I mean can the owner get fined?

[NewcastleFalcon]

Is it illegal to have a green flash, I mean can the owner get fined?

They hummed an hawed about allowing Hybrids a green flash, but in the end legislated in this statutory instrument
Relevant bit...only those vehicles which cannot produce any tailpipe emissions can display the "pantone 7481c" flash

I guess the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994 enforcement officers will not be keen to do the necessary paperwork to pursue cases through the courts, but fixed penalty notices could be issued I presume (but I won't be doing the research to find out!)

an “eligible vehicle” means a vehicle to which these regulations apply and which cannot produce any tailpipe emissions;

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/202 ... tents/made

Spoiler: show

4. In regulation 16—

(a)after paragraph (4) insert—
“(4A) Subject to paragraph (4B), an eligible vehicle may display a plate or device which is green in colour.

(4B) The plate or other device referred to in paragraph (4A) must be—

(a)made from retroreflective material;
(b)colour Pantone 7481c(1) or a colour match that is as close as possible to this colour;
(c)no less than forty millimetres and no more than fifty millimetres in width.
(4C) No other vehicle may display a plate or other device which is green in colour.

(4D) Subject to paragraphs (5) to (8) there may be displayed on a plate or other device referred to in (4A) an arrangement of letters corresponding with one of the sub-paragraphs of paragraph (9) and an emblem corresponding with one of the sub-paragraphs of paragraph (10).”;

(b)in paragraph (5) after “The” insert “plate or other device, ” and after “(4)” insert “, (4A), (4B) and (4D)”;
(c)after paragraph (10) insert—
“(11) In this regulation—

(a)an “eligible vehicle” means a vehicle to which these regulations apply and which cannot produce any tailpipe emissions;
(b)where the eligible vehicle is towing a trailer, paragraphs (4A), (4B), and (4D) may also apply to the plate or other device fixed to that trailer.”.
(1)Further information and a guide to the colour m

Neil

[mickthemaverick]

(a)an “eligible vehicle” means a vehicle to which these regulations apply and which cannot produce any tailpipe emissions;

Neil

So if I want to fit a green flash all I have to do is route the exhaust through a top pipe going straight up like some trucks!

I spy a loophole in the wording there!!

[myglaren]

Xpeng

Xpeng
570km per charge.

Sorry it is all in foreign and an advert to boot

(A Swedish mile (mil) is 10km).

[deuchebleu]

I thought somebody may have picked up on this one, but then maybe nobody reads the Telegraph.
The IKEA flatpack car. Some good ideas there, especially the removeable batteries. Top speed more useable than a Citroen Ami.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/0 ... ctric-car/

[NewcastleFalcon]

I thought somebody may have picked up on this one, but then maybe nobody reads the Telegraph.
The IKEA flatpack car. Some good ideas there, especially the removeable batteries. Top speed more useable than a Citroen Ami.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/0 ... ctric-car/

I was going to say welcome to the thread, but not your first post on the thread and a long term FCF member from 2011! Thanks for your contribution, all sorts of innovations going on and who knows the flat pack car may become a thing. With a fairly recent delve into Airfix model cars for our younger generation, and my own prowess at gluing, I would definitely leave the sticking of the parts together to make the car to someone else.

Here's Electrek's take on it. If you do happen to live on the 14th floor the two batteries are luggable in the lift up to your apartment and charge up in an hour. That's the benefit of small/light vehicles, don't need to carry around a massive battery pack.

https://electrek.co/2023/04/15/swedish- ... tric-cars/

Neil