what is the most comfortable Citroen?
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what is the most comfortable Citroen?
simple question - might throw up a poll later
which is the most comfortable Citroen? including cornering, ramps, braking, etc ...
I've driven a few, but would like the view of all of the experienced drivers out there ...
[update] poll added!!!
<stupid poll says "You have tried to enter too many poll options." but does not say what the limit is ...grrr>
which is the most comfortable Citroen? including cornering, ramps, braking, etc ...
I've driven a few, but would like the view of all of the experienced drivers out there ...
[update] poll added!!!
<stupid poll says "You have tried to enter too many poll options." but does not say what the limit is ...grrr>
Last edited by davoxx on 02 Oct 2011, 13:43, edited 1 time in total.
why?
- DHallworth
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I've driven Xantia's, XM's, C5's and C6's.
Out of all of them the XM has the comfiest seats and the smoothest suspension.
The seats on the C6 were hard and the suspension much firmer.
David.
Out of all of them the XM has the comfiest seats and the smoothest suspension.
The seats on the C6 were hard and the suspension much firmer.
David.
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- DHallworth
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We've got 2 Xantia Exclusives. One a V6 and the other an HDi.davoxx wrote:did you drive an exclusive Xantia? was it better or worse than the xm?DHallworth wrote: Out of all of them the XM has the comfiest seats and the smoothest suspension.
i also found the c6 a bit hard, at least it is not just me
The suspension on the Xantia's isn't as hard as the C6 but it's not as soft as the XM. The seats in the Xantia are also a lot narrower and not as arm chair like as the XM's.
David.
'98 Xantia Activa V6
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‘10 C5 3.0 HDi Exclusive
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'00 XM V6 Exclusive
'09 C5 2.7 HDi Exclusive
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'12 C6 3.0 HDi Exclusive
'15 C4 BlueHDi Feel
This is the encouragement i needDHallworth wrote:We've got 2 Xantia Exclusives. One a V6 and the other an HDi.davoxx wrote:did you drive an exclusive Xantia? was it better or worse than the xm?DHallworth wrote: Out of all of them the XM has the comfiest seats and the smoothest suspension.
i also found the c6 a bit hard, at least it is not just me
The suspension on the Xantia's isn't as hard as the C6 but it's not as soft as the XM. The seats in the Xantia are also a lot narrower and not as arm chair like as the XM's.
David.
2006 C5 HDi 170
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Heres some more Chris.
A well sorted XM is much better than a non hydractive Xantia in my opinion, that's just suspension, the seats make it for me. When people say armchairs, they're not kidding. Arm rest and all, that's why the handbrake had to be moved, priorities and all that
Its been a while since I've been in a DS but the seats in that I remember sinking into quite a lot, more than the XM IIRC. Can't comment on the others.
A well sorted XM is much better than a non hydractive Xantia in my opinion, that's just suspension, the seats make it for me. When people say armchairs, they're not kidding. Arm rest and all, that's why the handbrake had to be moved, priorities and all that
Its been a while since I've been in a DS but the seats in that I remember sinking into quite a lot, more than the XM IIRC. Can't comment on the others.
Kev
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the cx was great on the straight, but damn it hated cornersred_dwarfers wrote: A well sorted XM is much better than a non hydractive Xantia in my opinion, that's just suspension, the seats make it for me. When people say armchairs, they're not kidding. Arm rest and all, that's why the handbrake had to be moved, priorities and all that
i suppose my question is: is a (sorted) XM is much better a (sorted) hydractive Xantia mk2?
from memory the xantia mk2 was smoother ... but i'm trying to make sure i was not just incorrectly remembering favourable experiences
why?
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Where are you from? If you're anywhere near Glasgow am happy to take you for a run in both one after the other.davoxx wrote: i suppose my question is: is a (sorted) XM is much better a (sorted) hydractive Xantia mk2?
from memory the Xantia mk2 was smoother ... but i'm trying to make sure i was not just incorrectly remembering favourable experiences
David.
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The CXs are great for comfort - even the stiffer GTi Turbos are still very smooth.
Get a nice early Series 1 CX with the mega comfortable seats (makes XM seats like a wood bench) and it's great.
Try sitting in the back of a Series 1 CX Prestige - all that room and hugely comfortable seats! You do start to nod off actually...
Get a nice early Series 1 CX with the mega comfortable seats (makes XM seats like a wood bench) and it's great.
Try sitting in the back of a Series 1 CX Prestige - all that room and hugely comfortable seats! You do start to nod off actually...
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'Old Katy'
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I've driven CX, GSA, BX, Xantia over the last 11 years and would say that out of that bunch, the Xantia has the best overall ride with the CX having the most sensational (but not actually the comfiest)
Rationale: my CXs, all early Mk1s, and each having rebuilt suspension, really do float in long, slow sensations but in a brilliantly controlled way. i.e. not all over the place - really good grip but tight corners and switchbacks together with the amazing steering system made for a car that leans way too much for comfort. It can take speed bumps, road works 'ramps', pavé roads like it's smooth as silk: it could give a 2CV a run for its money over that ploughed field too! This, together with the seats and the steering that gives no road vibrations through, makes it phenomenal. But! the mad body roll together with a fair bit of vibration through the pedals mars it quite a bit.
The GSA is similar in all the same as the CX less the steering advantage.
The BX (mine were both series 1s with the roller bearings front susension arms and mega soft seats) were surprisingly floaty after I'd given them the works, but seemed a bit underdamped and skittish on the thin tyres - they rolled quite a bit too so didn't improve enough over the CX or GSA in overall ride.
That's why the Xantia wins for me: very well insulated over all the oldies, big rubber suspension mountings to absorb the vibrations, shorter travel suspension so not so good on the speed bumps etc, the far better body roll control and grip and relative softness and sensible body motion but retaining just enough floatiness makes it special enough and sensible enough in equal measure.
For me the Xantia ride wins! (still need a CX from time to time )
Rationale: my CXs, all early Mk1s, and each having rebuilt suspension, really do float in long, slow sensations but in a brilliantly controlled way. i.e. not all over the place - really good grip but tight corners and switchbacks together with the amazing steering system made for a car that leans way too much for comfort. It can take speed bumps, road works 'ramps', pavé roads like it's smooth as silk: it could give a 2CV a run for its money over that ploughed field too! This, together with the seats and the steering that gives no road vibrations through, makes it phenomenal. But! the mad body roll together with a fair bit of vibration through the pedals mars it quite a bit.
The GSA is similar in all the same as the CX less the steering advantage.
The BX (mine were both series 1s with the roller bearings front susension arms and mega soft seats) were surprisingly floaty after I'd given them the works, but seemed a bit underdamped and skittish on the thin tyres - they rolled quite a bit too so didn't improve enough over the CX or GSA in overall ride.
That's why the Xantia wins for me: very well insulated over all the oldies, big rubber suspension mountings to absorb the vibrations, shorter travel suspension so not so good on the speed bumps etc, the far better body roll control and grip and relative softness and sensible body motion but retaining just enough floatiness makes it special enough and sensible enough in equal measure.
For me the Xantia ride wins! (still need a CX from time to time )
Graeme M
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Ah well Aero has confirmed it. The Xantia wins !! Long live the Xantia
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