2016 Peugeot 3008 Active 1.6Hdi DPF Query/Help

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Re: 2016 Peugeot 3008 Active 1.6Hdi DPF Query/Help

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GiveMeABreak wrote: 14 Sep 2021, 16:35
These are the official figures for mine:
Engines Euro 6.2 (Euro 6.d-TEMP)Low L/100 km (MPG)Medium L/100 km (MPG)High L/100 km (MPG)Extra High L/100 km (MPG)Combined L/100 km (MPG)CO2 Emissions (g/km)Reality Check
Owner Average
BlueHDi 100 6-speed manual5.4 - 4.9 (52.3 - 57.1)4.8 - 4.2 (59.4 - 67.6)4.6 - 3.9 (62.0 - 72.7)6.0 - 5.1 (47.0 - 55.8)5.2 - 4.5 (54.1 - 62.7)104 - 10945.6 MPG
I'm curious why the supposedly Extra High MPG figure of 47.0 - 55.8 is actually lower than the supposedly Low MPG figure of 52.3 - 57.1?

FWIW, just looking at the power and torque figures of the 1.5 130bhp BlueHDi against our 1.6 120bhp BlueHDi implied that the 1.5 was more peaky in its delivery of power and would need revving more than we have to with our 1.6. I've not driven a 1.5 so could be wrong but one of the things that has impressed me about the our 1.6 is how it will pull from low revs making it feel like a much bigger engine.
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Look at the explanation below - I think we always knew that once you go over 70 / 80 MPH you economy takes a big drop.

LOW: Low speed city driving, representative of city centre driving, maximum 35mph.

MEDIUM: Medium speed town driving, representative of town or suburban driving, maximum 50mph.

HIGH: High speed rural driving, representative of A-road or dual carriageway driving, maximum 60mph.

EXTRA HIGH: Extra High speed motorway driving, representative of a typical European motorway, maximum 81mph.

COMBINED: A mixed journey average of all elements
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That explanation of the categories is important. Without it one doesn't know that Low is really stop start town driving which is death to fuel economy.
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GiveMeABreak wrote: 19 Sep 2021, 16:40 Look at the explanation below - I think we always knew that once you go over 70 / 80 MPH you economy takes a big drop.

LOW: Low speed city driving, representative of city centre driving, maximum 35mph.

MEDIUM: Medium speed town driving, representative of town or suburban driving, maximum 50mph.

HIGH: High speed rural driving, representative of A-road or dual carriageway driving, maximum 60mph.

EXTRA HIGH: Extra High speed motorway driving, representative of a typical European motorway, maximum 81mph.

COMBINED: A mixed journey average of all elements
there is all of this and then there is the real world
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Indeed - this is just the official blurb that goes with the figures in the previous post I made to explain what they mean - it's as per the brochures.

A lot of people agree, including the AA, that the discrepancy between the figures on the brochure can be up to 40% out compared to those in the real world!

https://www.theaa.com/driving-advice/fu ... on-figures
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Paul-R wrote: 19 Sep 2021, 19:06 That explanation of the categories is important. Without it one doesn't know that Low is really stop start town driving which is death to fuel economy.
Even with the explanation of the categories it doesn't alter the fact that real word fuel economy is well off what it should be.
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That's why I posted up my MPG which shows in reality what I am getting compared to the Mickey Mouse figures listed. It's pretty poor to be honest and with our much older 2007 C3 1.6 HDi 16 Valve, I was getting high 50s to low 60s MPG for the same local journeys!
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Isn't "progress" wonderful!
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Dormouse wrote: 20 Sep 2021, 10:04 Isn't "progress" wonderful!
Perhaps.
My economy is pretty derisory, 1.8 petrol 2009 Civic. 33.9mpg over 7,250 miles. Worse than the C5 2L HDi that was poor, around 42 mpg.

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Well been using Shell V-Power for last couple of weeks and Mpg has been slowly creeping up, will continue using it for another couple of weeks and see what happens.
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I used to use that for every third or fourth tankful on the C5 - and now on the Aircross as it helps keep the fuel system in good order as it has additional cleaners in and should negate the need for additional fuel treatments. My days of using supermarket fuels are long over. I'd rather pay a bit more for the extra additives for the cleaning and possible performance, but I've never really noticed any MPG increase that I can attribute to it - but that may be as I don't use it every tankful. I use Gulf as they changed from a Shell and we don't have one anywhere - so I use their 'Super Diesel' which is the same sort of thing.
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BigStu09 wrote: 03 Oct 2021, 12:16 Well been using Shell V-Power for last couple of weeks and Mpg has been slowly creeping up, will continue using it for another couple of weeks and see what happens.

That ties in with an experiment I managed to do on a small fleet of cars and drivers a few years ago. Interesting that you have gradually noticed it. Most people poo poo the idea and think the change should be instant. It is not.
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I used to work for a big national company with a fleet of over 4000 cars, vans & trucks with a fuel bill at the time of over £12 million per year, the fleet used mainly Total fuel where available (not many Total stations in Scotland), when Total came out with the excellium premium diesel with big claims of MPG savings they decided to give it a trial as going by their claims it would save them a small fortune so they got 3 drivers (doing each around 3000 miles per month) in each area where excellium was available to solely fill up with only excellium for 6 months.
The result of the trial was there was absolutely no MPG saving whatsoever on these vehicles. Bearing in mind this test wasn't just a couple of tankful's but hundreds of thousands of miles & each vehicle is a single driver van. Its pretty conclusive for me that some of these 'premium' fuels are junk but can have a great placebo effect.
My last 2 tankful's of diesel were Shell V power (only because thats all that was available) & again noticed no difference whatsoever.
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I'd never buy it for 'performance' claims - only for the extra additives / cleaners.
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Update.
Three months have now past since the repair process started. All been good up to last week when once again Engine light is on with fault codes U029D(87) Fault in communication with the nox exclusion system & P2200(87) NOx sensor. Even a cheap sensor off ebay etc comes with a five year warranty. Back to garage it will go but they cant look at it till the second week in January.
Beginning to think I should never have allowed her to choose a Peugeot.
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