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Re: Oh well, know what I'm Doing Tomorrow!

Post by Zelandeth » 19 Feb 2015, 18:00

Well, my 107 apparently had an argument with a kerb at the start of the week (one of the ridiculous ones in the JR Hospital car park in Oxford) which successfully put a dent in the rim and burst the tyre. Thankfully despite the dent the wheel is at least still round and serviceable. So a new tyre is now on there. Had hoped to fit that back on the car today but I've not quite been able to bring myself to crawl around in the rain today! Will obviously need to go in to get the wheel alignment checked as well after a thump like that.

(Don't look at me, I wasn't driving! Virtually every wound that car has sustained has been when I was not at the wheel!)

With a bit of luck I'll be able to get that done at the weekend and have another poke around to see if I can pin down which bearing is grumbling. I did jack the car up and span every wheel before, but none were noticeably rough - hoping that a few more miles will mean that it's easier to detect now.

Front ones are apparently a job which you technically can get away without a press for - if you're lucky. If things don't want to come apart though, then you really are best with one. Rears apparently are basically an integral hub assembly (like the rears on the Saab as I recall) so is a pretty simple case of four bolts, remove old one, stick new one on and bolt things back together. For all it's a more expensive unit, kind of hope it is one of the rears as that really *should* be a job I can do without any major headaches!

...Mind you, I've said that enough times before to know better!

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Re: Oh well, know what I'm Doing Tomorrow!

Post by CitroJim » 19 Feb 2015, 18:09

I think I know why it's easy to kerb a 107... You have absolutely no clue as to where the wheels actually are in relation to where you sit as a driver..

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Re: Oh well, know what I'm Doing Tomorrow!

Post by citronut » 19 Feb 2015, 18:54

CitroJim wrote: You have absolutely no clue as to where the wheels actually are
usually one on each cornner :twisted: :o :roll: #-o :-D :lol: :rofl2: :rofl2: :wink:
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Re: Oh well, know what I'm Doing Tomorrow!

Post by Zelandeth » 19 Feb 2015, 23:57

Agreed!

The only time I have ever kerbed a car was the day after I bought the 107! Clipped one going into a cinema car park that was hiding in the giant blind spot behind the windscreen pillars. Being used to Saabs, Ladas etc that isn't something I was used to compensating for. Still bothers me to be honest!

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Re: Oh well, know what I'm Doing Tomorrow!

Post by CitroJim » 20 Feb 2015, 05:17

Zelandeth wrote:Still bothers me to be honest!
Same here :twisted:

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Re: Oh well, know what I'm Doing Tomorrow!

Post by Zelandeth » 20 Feb 2015, 16:02

Having said that, could be so much worse. Moved one of my housemate's cars from parked outside when I was playing automotive Tetris one afternoon just to back it into the drive. Current generation VW Golf GTD. Oh...my...word...How on earth are you meant to drive that thing? Visibility in every direction is absolutely non-existent! Don't think I've ever taken that long to do a reversing manoeuvre before - and that's including doing the same in a full size coach. No wonder reversing sensors/cameras are becoming so commonplace!

On the subject of the Xantia can someone confirm that the following are the correct timing belt, aux belt/idler and water pump for this car? Something down there is whining periodically and I'm 99% certain it's the idler on the aux belt, so makes sense to change it while things are apart.

...Hopefully not breaking any rules here as I'm not advertising anything, just checking that I'm not making any stupid mistakes! Will dive outside and get the VIN momentarily and add that here so that those in the know can confirm exactly what power unit etc is in my car.

Edit: VIN ends 0445 if that's helpful.

Timing Belt & Pulley: eBay link

Water Pump: Online Car Parts Link

Aux Belt: eBay Link

Aux Pulley/tensioner (are these one and the same? I really need to get off my rear and pick up a manual...): eBay Link

Going to be an expensive month for the old girl as will probably be putting tyres on as well shortly!

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Re: Oh well, know what I'm Doing Tomorrow!

Post by citronut » 20 Feb 2015, 19:15

if you post the last 8 digits of your chassis/VIN No. i will send you your cars birth certificate,
this has
warranty start date, pr No. engine and box codes/types paint and upholstery colour type and codes, and lots more

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Re: Oh well, know what I'm Doing Tomorrow!

Post by CitroJim » 20 Feb 2015, 20:11

Zel, the cambelt kit and water pump are OK but the Aux. belt can be one of a couple of lengths depending on th aircon compressor fitted and the aux. belt tensioner is completely wrong for yours. The one shown is for the early engine...

You need the automatic one and the big spring that goes with it...

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Re: Oh well, know what I'm Doing Tomorrow!

Post by Zelandeth » 20 Feb 2015, 21:24

Thought it might be the other type of tensioner! This is why I check things. I know my way around Lada Riva/Niva and rear engined Skoda engine bays backwards, but still learning here!

Last eight digits from the VIN plate are: 72100445.

Cheers for the info!

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Re: Oh well, know what I'm Doing Tomorrow!

Post by miked » 20 Feb 2015, 22:27

Has Service.citroen changed the layout? seemed harder than usual to format the data.

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 Vehicle characteristics

Vehicle family                                 XANTIA II
AS RPO No                                      07849 CJ 1 0510
Warranty Start Date                            01/01/1990
OPB                                            A02D
BER                                            e2*93/81*0124*02
General information
PRODUCT TYPE                                   CAR
COMMERCIAL MARQUE/COMPONENT TYPE               CITROEN
VEHICLE FAMILY                                 XANTIA II
SILHOUETTE                                     5 DOOR SALOON
TRIM LEVEL                                     SX
ENGINE                                         TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE
TRANSMISSION                                   BVM5
PAINT TYPE                                     METALLIC PAINTWORK
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE                             OMEGA CLOTH + "LM" MOLLETON
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR                              "FZ"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS)                      BE3 L
ENGINE (TYPE)                                  XU/XUD
OTHER BADGE                                    TURBO D
OTHER BADGE, " MISC. "                         WITHOUT FULLER BADGE
BADGE                                          XANTIA BADGE
Vehicle characteristics
TRIM LEVEL                                     SX
PAINT TYPE                                     METALLIC PAINTWORK
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE                             OMEGA CLOTH + "LM" MOLLETON
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR                              "FZ"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS)                      BE3 L
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE                              TACHO TORQUE 22X18
Fuel supply-Engine
ENGINE                                         TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE
DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR                   WITHOUT DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR
FUEL                                           DIESEL FUEL
EMISSIONS STANDARD (ENGINE)                    EEC 95 DEPOLL (ENGINE)
PRE-FILTER                                     ASSEMBLY WITHOUT PRE-FILTER
ENGINE (TYPE)                                  XU/XUD
CATALYTIC CONVERTER                            3 PARTS CATALYST
CRANKCASE GAS CIRCUIT HEATING                  W/O HEATER CASING GAS CIRCUIT
REGULATION 70/221 (FUEL LEAKS)                 WITH ANTI-RETURN VALVE
FAN                                            2 FANS , 2 RATES , IMPROVED
FUEL VAPOUR RETRIEVAL                          WITHOUT PETROL VAPOUR RECUPERATION
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT                   MOUNTING BOSCH
Gearbox-Driveshafts
TRANSMISSION                                   BVM5
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS)                      BE3 L
FINAL DRIVE RATIO                              REAR AXLE HYPOID GEARSET 15 X 64
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE                              TACHO TORQUE 22X18
WHEEL STYLE                                    STEEL WHEEL
SEAL, WHEEL END                                WHEEL-SIDE JOINT DIAM 17 5
SEAL, DIFFERENTIAL END                         AXLE-SIDE JOINT JB2A
TYRE (SIZE, TYPE)                              185X65X15 T TYRES
WHEELS FITTED                                  5,5" RIM ROAD WHEELS
WHEEL (TYPE)                                   STEEL WHEELS
GEARBOX TYPE                                   BE3
Suspension-Steering-Brakes
ABS                                            W/O ABS BRAKES
REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR                             REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 21
FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR                            FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 22
HYDRAULIC STOP                                 WITHOUT HYDRAULIC STOP
REAR SUSPENSION SPHERE                         RR SUSP SPHERE DESMOPAN TALC
ACTIVE ANTI-ROLL                               W/O ACTIVE ANTI-ROLL
FRONT SUSPENSION SPHERE                        FR SUSP SPHERE DESMOPAN TALC
MAIN ACCUMULATOR SPHERE                        TALC DESMOPAN ACCUMULATOR SPHERE
ACTIVE SUSPENSION                              WITHOUT HYDRACTIVE SUSPENSION
Body fittings
HORNS                                          HORN STANDARD
REAR SPOILER                                   ASSEMBLY WITHOUT REAR SPOILER
WHEEL EMBELLISHER (STYLE)                      BACCARAT STYLE 8 HOLES 15 INCHES
WASHER JET                                     WINDSHIELD WASHER JET W/O DEFROST
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION            WITHOUT INDEXED REAR VIEW MIRROR
ENGINE BAY SOUNDPROOFING                       BULKHEAD + BONNET SOUND-PROOFING
WINDSCREEN WIPER                               INTERMITTENT WINDSCREEN WIPER W/O WATER LEVEL INDI
HEADLAMP WIPER                                 W/O HEADLAMP WIPER
FRONT PANEL BLANK                              SEMI-CLOSED GRILLE + OPEN BUMPER
BUMPER                                         BODY COLOUR SINGLE NOZZLE
FRONT FOGLAMP                                  FRONT FOG LIGHTS
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE)        NON HEATED EXT DRIV RRVIEW MIRROR MAN CNTRL
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (PASSENGER SIDE)     PASS EXT RRVIEW MIRROR NON HEATED ELECT CNTRL
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES                           RRVIEW MIRROR CASING BODY COLOUR
SUN ROOF                                       FIXED ROOF
GLASS (APPEARANCE)                             TINTED
Interior fittings
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE                             OMEGA CLOTH + "LM" MOLLETON
ANTI-THEFT ALARM                               ALARM ULTRASONIC+PERIMETER STD
REAR HEAD RESTRAINT                            JOINTED REAR HEADREST
FRONT HEAD RESTRAINT                           JOINTED FRONT HEADREST
REAR SEAT                                      SEPARATE FOLD BACK BENCH SEAT
REAR SEAT ARMREST                              WITH REAR ARMREST
REAR SEATBELT                                  INERTIA REEL+STATIC LAP
FRONT SEATBELT                                 PYROTECHNIC SEAT BELT WITHOUT ALARM
SPEED GRADUATIONS                              GRADUATION MPH
RADIO EQUIPMENT                                FEED AERIAL RECEIV FRT SPEAKER TWT REAR SPEAKER
DRIVING POSITION                               RIGHT HAND DRIVE
REMOTE CONTROL                                 REMOTE CONTROL ASSEMBLY
DASHBOARD EQUIPMENT                            FACIA PANEL WITHOUT WOOD
MISC. INT. LAMPS                               MAP READING LIGHT DRIV+PASS
DOOR TRIM                                      DOOR PANEL WITHOUT WOOD DECOR
TACHOMETER (SIGNAL CONNECTION)                 REV COUNTER CALC
LOUDSPEAKER                                    MOUNTING 6 LOUDSPEAKERS
RADIO CONTROLS                                 REMOTE RADIO CONTROL
SCREENING (BLIND, SIDE SUNBLIND, SUNROOF)      WITHOUT SUN VISOR SCREEN
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL            WITHOUT FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT
DRIVER SEAT CONTROL                            DRIVERS FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTROL
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT CONTROL                   PASSENGER FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTR
DRIVER SEAT ADJUSTMENT                         DRIVER’S LUMBAR ADJUSTMENT
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT ADJUSTMENT                PASSENGER LUMBAR ADJUSTMENT
INT. UPHOLSTERY ELEMENTS                       NOT WEAVED ROOF TRIM
FRONT SEAT ARMREST                             ASSEMBLY WITHOUT FRONT ELBOW REST
COMPACT DISC                                   MOUNTING COMPACT DISC
REAR WINDOW LIFT                               MAN CTRL REAR WINDOW LIFTER
DRIVER’S WINDOW LIFT                           SEQUENTIAL DRIVER’S ELECTRIC WINDOW
COURTESY MIRROR                                DRIVER+PASSENGER WITHOUT LIGHTING
OIL GAUGE                                      OIL LEVEL WARNING INDICATOR
HEATING ELEMENT                                NON HEATED SEAT
FRONT LATERAL AIRBAG                           WITHOUT FRONT SIDE AIRBAG
FOOTWELL LIGHTING                              WITHOUT DOOR SILL LIGHTING
PASSENGER AIRBAG                               NO PASSENGER AIRBAG
ELECTRIC WINDOW (OPERATION)                    DRIVERS SIDE ELECTRIC WINDOW AUTO STOP
RADIO RECEIVER                                 PERFORMANCE 3 RDS RADIO
REFRIGERATION                                  AIR CONDITIONING
CRUISE CONTROL                                 WITHOUT SPEED CONTROL
DRIVER’S SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL                   PARALLEL DRV HEIGHT ADJ
STORAGE (OTHERS)                               LOWER SETTING BOX FR AND RE DOORS
LOAD SPACE STORAGE                             W/O BOOT TIDY
RADIO HOUSING                                  WITHOUT RADIO LOCATION HOUSING
CARPET                                         CARPET F470
LIGHTING TIMER                                 ADJUSTABLE TIMER
EXTERIOR TEMPERATURE (SCALE)                   EXT TEMP INDICATOR CELSIUS
SWITCH                                         ELECTRONIC ANTI-THEFT KEY
WATER TEMP INDICATOR                           WATER TEMP INDIC +RED TELLTALE
FLOOR MAT                                      WITH CARPETMAT
LOCKING CONTROL                                CENTRAL DEAD LOCKING
STEERING WHEEL                                 RUBBER STEERING WHEEL 4 BRANCH
FAN                                            2 FANS , 2 RATES , IMPROVED
Electrical
ALTERNATOR                                     ALTERNATOR 120 AMP
HORNS                                          HORN STANDARD
BATTERY                                        BATTERY L2 300
REMOTE CONTROL                                 REMOTE CONTROL ASSEMBLY
STARTER MOTOR                                  STARTER MOTOR CL 5
SPECIAL LIGHTING                               WITHOUT PARTICULAR LIGHT
MISC. INT. LAMPS                               MAP READING LIGHT DRIV+PASS
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION            WITHOUT INDEXED REAR VIEW MIRROR
CEN. LOCKING REM CONTROL FREQUENCY             LOCKING REMOTE CONTROL FREQUENCY 433.92 MHZ HETERODYNE
FOOTWELL LIGHTING                              WITHOUT DOOR SILL LIGHTING
FRONT FOGLAMP                                  FRONT FOG LIGHTS
Component manufacturers
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT                   MOUNTING BOSCH
Miscellaneous
SPECIAL SPECIFICATION                          LCDV CREATED FOR INIT VERSION16
ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS                         NORMAL ATMOSPHERE
DRIVING POSITION                               RIGHT HAND DRIVE
RADIO HEADPHONE SOCKET                         WITH ACCESSORIES SOCKET
TRAFFIC SIDE                                   DRIVING ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE
SIDE IMPACTS                                   DOOR WITHOUT REINFORCEMENT
SURFACE CONDITIONS                             GOOD TERRAIN
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES                           RRVIEW MIRROR CASING BODY COLOUR
EMERGENCY WARNING TRIANGLE                     WITHOUT WARNING TRIANGLE 

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Re: Oh well, know what I'm Doing Tomorrow!

Post by Zelandeth » 20 Feb 2015, 22:38

Crikey, that's quite a bit of data!

At least I was right that it was the XUD9TE which I thought it was!

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Re: Oh well, know what I'm Doing Tomorrow!

Post by Zelandeth » 04 Mar 2015, 22:53

Finally had a relatively quiet day today and got some loose ends tied up. Not least giving the poor Xantia a proper wash for the first time since I got it.

I honestly have no idea how many years it is since it last had a proper wash given the amount of black grime that I managed to shift off it. Also blew a good deal of the loose clearcoat off the roof so I can set about patching that up now. Won't ever be perfect, but will be better than it is just now! Likewise the front bumper (what is it with Xantias getting their noses scraped? Seemed like half the ones we got in at the garage needed them resprayed.

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Still don't reckon it looks half bad for the number of years and miles that have been done.

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Re: Oh well, know what I'm Doing Tomorrow!

Post by CitroJim » 05 Mar 2015, 05:23

That's looking nice Zel :-D

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Re: Oh well, know what I'm Doing Tomorrow!

Post by Zelandeth » 05 Mar 2015, 22:20

Need to get some touch up paint so I can touch up the bumper corners and the scratch on the rear quarter.

Going to attack the roof with some pretty sticky masking tape tomorrow and see if it will pull a fair portion of the flaky clearcoat off so I can re paint it (will never be perfect, but can't be worse than now!). It's just so tedious picking it off by hand...plus the bits get everywhere! Especially it seems into my coffee.

Need to get some new number plates made too as the front one especially is a right mess because it's delaminating and there is moss growing between the layers. Just one of those silly things that my eye and OCD keeps getting drawn to!

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Re: Oh well, know what I'm Doing Tomorrow!

Post by CitroJim » 06 Mar 2015, 08:05

Check the paint code Zel. I expect yours is Dante Red code KJA I think it is. Look on the bulkhead by the offside strut top for it in white stencilled paint. The yellow code below it is the RP number.

Be interested to know how it goes..