Connect Radio vs Connect Box

[edurrant]

Hi,
I hope someone can clarify for me the difference between these two items and tell me how I can tell what is fitted in my (just bought) second-hand 2022 C3 Shine LED car.

Specifically, for GPS navigation using the built-in system (as opposed to connecting a smartphone via USB and using Google Maps or similar), can I subscribe to this service from Citroën/TomTom without the Telmatics box? Some Citroën documentation seems to suggest that I can (with real-time updates only possible over my smartphone running as a Wi-Fi hotspot); however, when I try to subscribe, the Citroën website says my car is incompatible, even though the dealer lists it as having a Connect box fitted and a Connect radio. I believe it has the connect radio but not the telematics box.

Here is the car's VIN VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]

Thanks for any help,

Regards, Ed.

[edurrant]

As I am taking the car back to the dealer next Monday, it would be advantageous to understand which features were fitted based on the VIN. I want to know if there are other items that they listed in the advert as being fitted that aren't there. So far, it is clear that the Connect Box is NOT fitted and that the model of radio is a Bosch model that does not support Navigation even when given a WiFi connection.
I believe the Moderator has the ability to get a report for the VIN listing what features were fitted?

Regards, Ed.

[wheeler]

This is the build sheet for your car

Vehicle characteristics

Vehicle family C3 (B618)
AS/RP N° 16803 76 1 0403
Warranty Start Date 30/11/2022
Engine serial number 10 XKDS 0170593
OPB 00SX
BER e2*2007/46*0003*70
P4A 9838511099
General information
PRODUCT TYPE PASSENGER CAR
COMMERCIAL MARQUE/COMPONENT TYPE CITROEN
VEHICLE FAMILY C3 (B618)
SILHOUETTE 5-DOOR SALOON
TRIM LEVEL HIGH MEDIUM
ENGINE EB2FA UE64 1.2 L PETROL
TRANSMISSION STT TYPE 5-SPEED MANUAL GEARBOX
PAINT TYPE METALLIC LACQUER
BODY COLOUR EVL - PLATINUM GREY PAINT
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE W&W HELLO + RIMINI G275 "UK"
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FL"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BVM MA5 / N
CONVERSION GUIDANCE WITHOUT CONVERSION
DEFINITION TO FOLLOW MID-LIFE
ENGINE (TYPE) EB TYPE ENGINE
ROOF (EXT. ASPECT) BLACK PEARL ROOF
OTHER BADGE WITHOUT FULLER BADGE
OTHER BADGE, " MISC. " WITHOUT FULLER BADGE
BADGE FAMILY BADGE

Vehicle characteristics
TRIM LEVEL HIGH MEDIUM
PAINT TYPE METALLIC LACQUER
BODY COLOUR EVL - PLATINUM GREY PAINT
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE W&W HELLO + RIMINI G275 "UK"
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FL"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BVM MA5 / N
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE SPEEDOMETER RATIO 21 X NO
ROOF (EXT. ASPECT) BLACK PEARL ROOF

Fuel supply-Engine
ENGINE EB2FA UE64 1.2 L PETROL
FUEL SUPPLY INJECTION
FUEL FILLER CAP FUEL TANK CAP AUTOMATIC LOCKING
DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR WITHOUT DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR
FUEL UNLEADED PETROL 95 QUALITY A/B/E/E+
EMISSIONS STANDARD (ENGINE) EURO 6.4 ENGINE EMISSION CONTROL
ENGINE (TYPE) EB TYPE ENGINE
CAPACITY 1200 CM3
CATALYTIC CONVERTER NOT AFFECTED
FUEL TANK FUEL TANK WITHOUT LOCATING TAB
FUEL TANK INSULATION WITHOUT FUEL TANK INSULATION
OPTIMISATION OF VEHICLE’S CONSUMPTION NORMAL FUEL CONSUMPTION OPTIMISATION
COOLING MOTOR 16 THICK RADIATOR - 16 DM2 BRAZED ALU WITHOUT MEC
CRANKCASE GAS CIRCUIT HEATING W/O HEATER CASING GAS CIRCUIT
POWER VARIATION (ENGINE) POWER 60.8KW - 116NM
SPECIAL POWER TRAIN SOUND WITHOUT POWER TRAIN ACOUSTICS
VALVE PER CYLINDER 4
EOBD SELF-DIAGNOSIS SYSTEM "EOBD" AUTO-DIAGNOSTIC WITHOUT ACCELEROMETER
DEVICE (ANTIPOLLUTION) WITHOUT ANTI-POLLUTION DEVICE
VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION EURO 6.4 VEHICLE TECHNICAL EMISSION CONTROL
PARTICLE FILTER WITHOUT PARTICLE FILTER
FAN 1 100W AERO 2-SPEED FAN
FUEL VAPOUR RETRIEVAL CONTROLLED PETROL VAPOUR RECUPERATION
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT VALEO INJECTION SYSTEM
DRIVE TRAIN INTERNAL COMBUSTION DRIVE TRAIN
TANK FILTER RESERVOIR FILTER INTERIOR
STOP AND START WITH STOP AND START STARTER

Gearbox Transmission
TRANSMISSION STT TYPE 5-SPEED MANUAL GEARBOX
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BVM MA5 / N
FINAL DRIVE RATIO AXLE RATIO 13 X 59
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE SPEEDOMETER RATIO 21 X NO
WHEEL STYLE 16 INCH LET WHEEL
SEAL, WHEEL END WHEEL-SIDE SEAL RZ 17.5
SEAL, DIFFERENTIAL END AXLE-SIDE SEAL JB1T
DIFFERENTIAL (GEARBOX) DIFFERENTIAL DIAMETER 77
RIM/TYRE SIZE 16 INCH TYRE FITMENT
TYRE (SIZE, TYPE) 205/55 R16 94V 3PMSF REINFORCED TYRE
WHEELS FITTED WHEEL 6.5 J16 RIM OFFSET 20
WHEEL (TYPE) ALLOY WHEEL ASSEMBLY 1
INFLATION PRESSURE LOSS INDICATOR INDIRECT TYRE UNDER-INFLATION DETECTION WITHOUT LOCATION
GEARBOX TYPE MA

Suspension-Steering-Brakes
ABS WITH ABS BRAKES
REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR WITHOUT REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR
FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 20
BRAKE TYPE VENTILATED FRONT DISCS/REAR DRUMS
STEERING TRAVEL STEERING MECHANISM TRAVEL 70
STEERING WHEEL ANGLE WITH ABSOLUTE STEERING WHEEL ANGLE ESTIMATOR
SUSPENSION NORMAL SUSPENSION
DYNAMIC STABILITY CONTROL SYSTEM ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM
BRAKE ASSOCIATED VARIANT BOSCH 9.0 ESP
STEERING (OPERATION) ELECTRIC POWER STEERING
ELECTRIC STEERING 70 AMPERES ELECTRIC STEERING
PEDAL BRACKET (TYPE) PEDAL STANDARD

Body fittings
TOWBAR WITHOUT TOWBAR
AERIAL SHORT ROOF AERIAL
FUEL FILLER CAP FUEL TANK CAP AUTOMATIC LOCKING
FINISHER (SELF-ADHESIVE) GLOSS BLACK REAR SURROUND TRIM
SIDE MOULDINGS (TYPE) WHITE SIDE PROTECTORS
SIDE MOULDINGS (DIMENSION) WIDE LAT PROTECTIONS + WING+SILL EXTENSIONS
WHEEL EMBELLISHER (STYLE) WITHOUT WHEEL TRIM
UNDERBODY SHIELD DEFLECTOR UNDER FRONT FLOOR
REVERSING LAMPS WITH 1 REVERSING LIGHT
INDICATORS LUMINOUS SIGNATURE
ADDITIONAL SHIELD (UNDER ENGINE) W/O ENGINE UNDERSHELDING
EXT. LOAD RETENTION RING (ATTACHMENT) WITH DETACHABLE EXTERIOR LASHING RING
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION ELECTRIC FOLDING EXTERIOR MIRROR
ENGINE BAY SOUNDPROOFING UNDERBONNET + BULKHEAD SOUNDPROOFING
ROOF (EXT. ASPECT) BLACK PEARL ROOF
WINDSCREEN WIPER FRONT WIPER BLADE WITH RAIN SENSOR
REAR SCREEN WIPER (OPERATION) AUTO INTERMITTENT RR WIPER IN REVERSE GEAR
FRONT PANEL BLANK LARGE FRONT FACE LOWER PLUG TOWBALL
ROOF GLASS WITHOUT ROOF WINDOW
OUTSIDE TEMPERATURE SENSOR WITH EXTERNAL TEMPERATURE SENSOR
BUMPER COLOURED STD FR/RR BUMPER
NUMBER PLATE WITHOUT LICENCE PLATE
FRONT FOGLAMP FRONT FOG LIGHTS
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE) ELECTRIC DRIVER’S EXTERIOR MIRROR
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (PASSENGER SIDE) PASSENGER ELECTRIC DOOR MIRROR
SPARE WHEEL SPARE WHEEL PRE-EQUIPMENT
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES EXT HANDLE BLACK + CHROME RING
EXT. REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE RADIUS) CURVED EXTERIOR MIRROR GLASS
BODY CONVERSION WITHOUT
BUMPER TRIM GLOSS BLACK FOGLAMP TRIM
GLASS (APPEARANCE) TINTED + DARK-TINTED WINDOW GLASS
HANDS FREE ACCESS AND STARTING FRONT ACCESS + BOOT + HANDS FREE STARTING

Interior fittings
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE W&W HELLO + RIMINI G275 "UK"
SIDE ARMREST (TYPE) FRONT REAR SIDE ARMREST + PULL HANDLE A
ANTI-THEFT ALARM WITHOUT THEFT PROTECTION ALARM
REAR HEAD RESTRAINT REAR HEADREST ADJUSTABLE
FRONT HEAD RESTRAINT FRONT HEADREST ADJUSTABLE
REAR SEAT REAR BENCH SEAT SINGLE CUSHION SEPARATE SEAT BACKS
BLIND SPOT DETECTION WITHOUT BLIND SPOT MONITORING
LUGGAGE COVER SHELF
REAR SEATBELT 3-REEL, 3-POINT REAR SEAT BELTS
FRONT SEATBELT RETRACTOR ALARM DRIVER + PASS S/BELT
CLIMATE (AMBIENT TEMP) COLD COUNTRIES
CHILD LOCK MANUAL REAR CHILD LOCK
SPEED GRADUATIONS SPEED GRADUATION IN KM/H
GRAB HANDLES HOOKS
RADIO EQUIPMENT FEED AERIAL RECEIV FRT SPEAKER TWT REAR SPEAKER
DRIVING POSITION LEFT-HAND DRIVE
REMOTE CONTROL WITH REMOTE CONTROL
MIRROR LINK WITH MIRROR LINK
BOOT AND LOAD SPACE LIGHTING LOAD VOLUME + BOOT LIGHTING AUTO CONTROL
DASHBOARD EQUIPMENT MISTRAL TEP STRIP+TURQUOISE DECOR
MISC. INT. LAMPS FRONT SPOTLAMP
LOAD SPACE TRIM BOOT CARPET MAT
INSTRUMENT PANEL (CHARACTERISTICS) LCD+TEXT+CHROME SURROUND INSTRUMENT PANEL
CHILD SEAT ANCHORING POINTS WITH REAR ISOFIX, WITHOUT FRONT ISOFIX
LOUDSPEAKER 4 FR SPEAKERS (2 TW + 2 FR)+2 RR SPEAKERS
RADIO CONTROLS STEERING WHEEL AUDIO SYSTEM CONTROL
POLLEN FILTER WITH POLLEN FILTER + ACTIVATED CARBON
PASSENGER COMPARTMENT SOUNDPROOFING SOUNDPROOFING BULKHEAD+CDG FR FLOOR+ABS WHEEL ARCH
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL WITHOUT FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT
DRIVER SEAT CONTROL MANUAL DRIVER’S SEAT CONTROL
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT CONTROL MANUAL FRONT PASSENGER SEAT CONTROL
DRIVER SEAT ADJUSTMENT DRIVER’S FR SEAT CUSHION ADJUSTMENT ADJUSTABLE BACKREST
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT ADJUSTMENT ADJUSTMENT FRONT PASSENGER SEAT CUSHION RECLINING SEAT BACK
FRONT SEAT ARMREST FRONT CENTRAL ARMREST
COMPACT DISC WITHOUT COMPACT DISC
SATELLITE NAVIGATION SYSTEM WITHOUT NAVIGATION SYSTEM
HEADLAMP BULBS ECO LED
REAR WINDOW LIFT SEQENT CONTR RR WINDOW LIFTER
TRAFFIC INFORMATION READER WITH LATERAL TRAJECTORY MONITORING
DRIVER’S WINDOW LIFT SEQUENTIAL DRIVER’S ELECTRIC WINDOW
PASSENGER’S WINDOW LIFT SEQUEN CONTROL PASSENG FRONT WINDOW LIFTER
DISPLAY DIGITAL TOUCH SCREEN
COURTESY MIRROR DRIV OCCULT+PASS OCCULT W/O LIGHT
OIL GAUGE W/O OIL LEVEL INDICATOR
FITTING REAR HEAD RESTRAINT MOUNT 3 REAR HEAD-REST
HEATING ELEMENT NON HEATED SEAT
FRONT LATERAL AIRBAG THORAX SIDE + CURTAIN AIRBAG
PASSENGER AIRBAG WITH AIRBAG ON PASSENGER SIDE
ON-BOARD COMPUTER COMPUTER
EQUIPMENT PACK W/O EQUIPMENT PACK
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (HEATED) HEATED EXTERIOR MIRROR
AIRBAG DEACTIVATION MANUAL AIRBAG DEACTIVATION
INTERIOR DOOR CONTROL (APPEARANCE) CHROME FINISH INSIDE DOOR HANDLE
COURTESY LAMP DOORS + FR COURTESY LIGHT REMOTE CONTROL
REAR LOAD FLOOR WITHOUT REAR LOAD FLOOR
FRONT SEAT GUARD WITHOUT CAB PROTECTION PANEL
FRONT SUN VISOR DRIVER’S+PASSENGER’S SIDE (WITH + W/O INSCRIPTION)
WIFI WITHOUT WIFI
STORAGE (DRIVING POSITION) CLOSED FRONT PANEL STORAGE COMPARTMENT
RADIO RECEIVER DIGITAL CONNECTED COLOUR RADIO
REFRIGERATION AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING
CRUISE CONTROL REGULATOR AND SPEED LIMIT
DRIVER’S SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL DRIVER’S SEAT HEIGHT MANUAL ADJ
INTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR DAY-NIGHT INTERIOR MIRROR
STORAGE (OTHERS) PLAIN STORAGE POCKET
CARPET COVER W/O CARPETMAT
DRIVER AIRBAG DRIVERS AIR BAG
EXT. REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE RADIUS) CURVED EXTERIOR MIRROR GLASS
LOAD SPACE STORAGE W/O BOOT TIDY
TUNER RADIO MONO RADIO TUNER
EXTERIOR TEMPERATURE (SCALE) CELSIUS EXTERIOR TEMPERATURE INDICATOR
WATER TEMP INDICATOR WATER TEMPERATURE TELL-TALE
OBSTACLE DETECTION SYSTEM REAR CAMERA OBSTACLE DETECTOR
INFLATION PRESSURE LOSS INDICATOR INDIRECT TYRE UNDER-INFLATION DETECTION WITHOUT LOCATION
TRIM ADAPTATION PU KNOB+PVC GAITER+OVERSTITCHING
RADIO FREQUENCY WESTERN EUROPE RADIO FREQUENCY
LOCKING CONTROL SIMPLE CENTRAL LOCKING
STEERING WHEEL LEATHER COATED STEERING WHEEL
FAN 1 100W AERO 2-SPEED FAN
AUDIO PACK AUXILIARY SOCKET 1 USB SOCKET
TELEMATIC UNIT WITHOUT TELEMATIC UNIT

Electrical
ALTERNATOR ALTERNATOR CLASS 12 UHEA
BATTERY L3 760 70AH EFBC 760 BATTERY BECOMES EFBC
REMOTE CONTROL WITH REMOTE CONTROL
STARTER MOTOR STTD STARTER
BOOT AND LOAD SPACE LIGHTING LOAD VOLUME + BOOT LIGHTING AUTO CONTROL
SPECIAL LIGHTING DAYLIGHT RUNNING LIGHTS
REVERSING LAMPS WITH 1 REVERSING LIGHT
MISC. INT. LAMPS FRONT SPOTLAMP
INDICATORS LUMINOUS SIGNATURE
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION ELECTRIC FOLDING EXTERIOR MIRROR
CEN. LOCKING REM CONTROL FREQUENCY LOCKING REMOTE CONTROL FREQUENCY 433.92 MHZ HETERODYNE
HEADLAMP BULBS ECO LED
MULTIPLEXING ECO ELECTRICAL ARCHITECTURE
BATTERY CHARGE MEASUREMENT WITH BATTERY CHARGE MEASUREMENT
COURTESY LAMP DOORS + FR COURTESY LIGHT REMOTE CONTROL
FRONT FOGLAMP FRONT FOG LIGHTS
LIGHTING OF LAMPS AUTOMATIC SWITCHING ON OF LIGHTS

Component manufacturers
BRAKE ASSOCIATED VARIANT BOSCH 9.0 ESP
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT VALEO INJECTION SYSTEM

Miscellaneous
SPECIAL SPECIFICATION STANDARD
MODIF. DURING MODEL YEAR WITHOUT MINOR MODIFICATIONS
CONDENSER (SPECIFICATIONS) CONDENSER 16 DM - THICKNESS 12CM
ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS NORMAL ATMOSPHERE
DRIVING POSITION LEFT-HAND DRIVE
VIN PLATE EUROPEAN UNION CONSTRUCTOR’S PLATE + NRE
AIR CONDITIONING PIPES STANDARD AIR CONDITIONING PIPES
TRAFFIC SIDE DRIVING ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE
SET OF KEYS SET OF BADGE KEYS + BACK-UP KEY
REFRIGERANT AIRCON FLUID 1234 YF
EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT W/O HELP EQUIPMENT
SURFACE CONDITIONS GOOD TERRAIN
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES EXT HANDLE BLACK + CHROME RING
ADDITIONAL TYPE APPROVAL PLATE W/O ADDIT HOMOLOGATION PLATE
SLAVE CONTROL UNIT BSI + COM 2008

[edurrant]

Fantastic!
THANK YOU
Ed.