1975 Renault 6TL

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Good stuff, is it sad to admit that I'm probably as excited as you to hear the first attempt at starting her up? :)
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Not at all. Everyone else seems excited to hear it running, I'm dreading it in case I need to pull the engine out again.
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Brilliant work and well, well done! It's really coming along now =D> 8-) :-D

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I used to use a skateboard (borrowed)
Never managed to damage one though.
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myglaren wrote:I used to use a skateboard (borrowed)
Never managed to damage one though.
Excellent use for one Steve :D

I'm looking very forward and getting very excited about this R6 being fired up very soon :D
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I think we all are. Its a lovely little car.

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We are ALL hanging onto your every word, waiting until we hear that she is road legal.
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aww... feeling the love here, guys. Feeling the love.
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Today was almost momentous. Almost. The short version is here:




The long version then. Got all the various wires and pipes plugged in that needed to be to get the engine running, got fuel in the tank from the last attempt, got things timed to the best of my ability, stuck the key in and decided to see what would happen. Unfortunately, where before I had fuel and spark but bad timing I now have spark and good timing but no fuel. When Mike was available we hooked up the Corsa with some jump leads so we wouldn't flatten the battery, put a little bit of fuel in the carb and got a cough of life out of the engine.

I'll take the fuel pump off and take it apart. It's probably blocked or the diaphragm has failed so it's unable to get fuel to the engine room. All the electrical things that did work that are still connected still do work. Feeling optimistic and only a little bit frustrated.
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Hey, so near :D Brilliant =D>

Tomorrow? Or will we all have to sit on tenterhooks until next weekend now?
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Hopefully I can resolve this tomorrow. Weather is set to be okay for a couple more days and the fuel pump is easy to get to since I didn't refit the steering column, just in case. All the ingredients are in place so I'm optimistic about this one.
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Brilliant :) I'll be watching this thread with great anticipation. I wish you much success for tomorrow!
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Excellent work, glad to hear the timing seems to be alright now, just a shame the fuel pump decided to let the side down. Still, rather now than on the way to the MoT station I suppose. Will definitely be making time to check back later on to see the video of (all being well, everything crossed for you here, eyes included!) the first start & proper run of the engine this millennium. :)
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Another day, another failure to get the car running. Sorry to disappoint there. However, I do at least know what was causing the issue with fuel not getting where it should. Because absolutely nothing was coming out of the pipe I did what I should have done ages ago and pulled the pipe off the sender and removed it from the tank revealing immediately the problem which is a missing filter bag and a completely clogged pick up line as well as lot of sludge.
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I know, I know, I should have dropped the tank and flushed it all through and checked this before even trying. I didn't, this is the result.

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It didn't look like rust, so I let it all dry out before doing anything about it and it now looks like it's covered in what I assume to be refining sand.
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I'll clean it up as best I can so at least it can be used to suck fuel up if not tell me how much is actually in the car. The fuel gauge has worked, once, while I've had this car so I'm hopeful this can be salvaged. It will of course need a new filter bag too since that's either dissolved or rolling around in the bottom of the fuel tank somewhere.

With the sender out, I checked that there is definitely fuel in the tank, which there is, you can just make out the reflection of it.
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Bought a couple of fuel filters, the only ones the shop had, connected one to the fuel line and dropped a length of hose in the tank then connected the electric pump to the other end to see if it would pull fuel through.
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Unfortunately, the fuel line that runs the length of the chassis has a blockage in it somewhere. Mike's going to bring the little compressor home so we can blow the line through back towards the tank to hopefully clear it and we'll retry a start with the current fuel filter set up. If the old sender does clean up and work then that's great, I'll get it refitted. If not, I'll look for a new one in the new year, I shan't have the funds for one before then.

I'm getting, at most, 3 hours play time a day on this car and that includes any errands Mike needs to run me on to pick things up. It's really frustrating as I'd like to get a lot more done in a day, there just isn't time with the short nights and no space in the garage if I had the car in there.
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Re: 1975 Renault 6TL - 05/12 Fuelling Issue

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Gosh, what a mess the fuel pickup/sender is in!!!

I fear you may be best advised to replace the entire fuel line all the way from tank to carb... At least it'll improve reliability in the future... Old fuel lines can be a constant source of problems and niggles...

It's frustrating when one is so near but still not quite there but when that moment comes it's going to be such a reward :D
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