205td timing belt wants to exit

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xsaras4ever
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205td timing belt wants to exit

Post by xsaras4ever »

Hello to all - please read ALL of this posting.

Our 205 timing belt tried to escape !!!!! :oops: :oops:

Our 205 td was losing water and it appeared to be coming from behind the injection pump. It was about time that it had a timing belt kit so we ordered that along with a new water-pump.

We stripped it down and removed the injection pump (still attached to its large aluminum bracket ).

It turned out to be a frayed water hose that goes through 90 degrees and goes to the oil-filter housing.

Now this is where a doubt creeps in.

We have done plenty of timing belts on these engines and so far had no problems.

This car had the spring and cap system built into the engine mounting - so it tensions itself (we will come back to that).

The tensioner pulley has a leg that is pressed by the cap and spring. It rocks on a pin and has a locking bolt and large washer at the other end.

We were working away happily - everything removed. We noticed a washer on the pin the the tensioner arm rocks on - the washer was pressed right up to the engine block face. The question we posed to ourselves was

"did we put that back on there when we stripped off the tensioner leg - or was it sitting behind the leg"

It made no sense that it would be behind the leg - it would throw everything out of whack.

We timed it up easily enough and re-assembled.

However - the tensioner arm has a square hole in it where you place a ratchet to move it around to get the belt on.

Normally when timing this system we don't just rely on the automatic system - we fit the belt and then put a little extra tension on the arm with the ratchet while nipping everything up tight - we forgot to do this on this one.

We turned the engine over by hand 10 times and the timing was still perfect.

We bled up the injectors and fired it up. It would not idle.

Then we noticed that the timing belt was trying to BURN its way out through the timing cover - the cover coming up from the water-pump being the worst.

The belt has moved outwards about 5mm and lucky we did not lose it.

All opinions welcome :?: :?: :?:
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xsaras4ever
(Donor 2016)
Posts: 391
Joined: 07 Aug 2013, 13:43
Location: Bretagne,France
My Cars: Peugeot 205 TD
Citroen Jumper 2.5D
Peugeot 406 Estate 2.0 Hdi
Citroen Saxo Ph2 1.1
Audi A3 1.9D
Pembleton 3 Wheeler
1959 Kelsey GT
1957 Fordson Power Major Tractor
1964 Nuffield 4/60 Tractor
1967 Nuffield 10/60 Tractor
1963 Allis Chalmers ED40 Tractor
1984 JCB 3CX
x 39

Re: 205td timing belt wants to exit

Post by xsaras4ever »

Having calmed down and slept on this - its obvious , isn't it ?
We just didn't have it tight enough.
Very stupid mistake - egg on face :roll:
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