'97 boxer leaking gearbox end cap.
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'97 boxer leaking gearbox end cap.
The gearbox on my boxer motorhome is leaking from the end cap, it has been bodged with some unidentified hard gunk but I'd quite like to get a new end cap. Does anyone know what gearbox and oil goes in a '97 5 speed 1.9td boxer van and where I might find a new end cap? There was one on ebay a while back but the bolt pattern looked a bit different to mine...
Here's a pic.
Here's a pic.
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Re: '97 boxer leaking gearbox end cap.
The two likely options are the BE3 gearbox and the ML5T gearbox (or derivatives of).
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Re: '97 boxer leaking gearbox end cap.
Yeah, I had thought it was an ML5T, it has a cable operated clutch though. As a temporary measure was thinking of replacing/topping up the oil, is that the level/filler plug on the lower left hand side?
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Re: '97 boxer leaking gearbox end cap.
If you were to post up the VIN somebody with the right level of access could lookup your vehicle and let you know what it had when it left the factory. I don't have such access.
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Re: '97 boxer leaking gearbox end cap.
That doesn't look like a BE3 or an ML5 to me... I think it's an ME box. As said, post up the VIN and we can have a look.
Depending on the age of the box it might have a dipstick on the OS of the diff! I can't see that plug in the parts diagram, it does look like the drain plug. All PSA boxes use 75W/80 oil. Not sure on the capacity for an ME box.
The end cover is part no 220778 - not available anymore. Only used on Boxer, 605, Relay and XM.... If you could scrape the carp off, you might be able to get it welded up?
Depending on the age of the box it might have a dipstick on the OS of the diff! I can't see that plug in the parts diagram, it does look like the drain plug. All PSA boxes use 75W/80 oil. Not sure on the capacity for an ME box.
The end cover is part no 220778 - not available anymore. Only used on Boxer, 605, Relay and XM.... If you could scrape the carp off, you might be able to get it welded up?
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Re: '97 boxer leaking gearbox end cap.
Not sure if this is the vin palate, on cross member above radiator.
VF3**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff] Cheers.
VF3**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff] Cheers.
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Re: '97 boxer leaking gearbox end cap.
That's it... although even Citroen doesn't know which box is fitted However, the mount just up and left of the end casing is not on the ML5 box, so it must be ME. It says 1.85l of 75W80. That bolt at the bottom left of the end cover doesn't get a mention anywhere; I wouldn't remove it in case.... There should be 2 drain plugs - one on the diff, and one on the bottom of the main casing just next to the join.
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Re: '97 boxer leaking gearbox end cap.
I've taken some more pics, what would really help would be models of potential donor vehicles since that part isn't available new anyway, does anyone have those?
Is the plastic plug the fill point?
Is the plastic plug the fill point?
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Re: '97 boxer leaking gearbox end cap.
Have a word with Dean Hunter, http://www.peugeotparts.co.uk/ I`m sure he will have a second hand one,he may even have a new one.
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Re: '97 boxer leaking gearbox end cap.
Failing that it looks like a steel cover so should be possible to weld it up, it certainly looks battered.
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Re: '97 boxer leaking gearbox end cap.
It's very thin metal as well,it's just a tin cap held on with a few screws. Easily removed,I bet when it's all cleaned up you will find its rusted and perforated.
If you do find a good second hand one(or a new ?) give the outside a good clean and lots of coates of hamerite.
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Thanks for that, I hope he has one!Oldpug wrote: ↑11 Apr 2018, 10:16 Have a word with Dean Hunter, http://www.peugeotparts.co.uk/ I`m sure he will have a second hand one,he may even have a new one.
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Re: '97 boxer leaking gearbox end cap.
I rang Dean, he didn't have one but has been very helpful and thinks this is the box, also found on Citroen XM and Peugeot 605. There's got to be one somewhere (I've rang half the scrapyards in Britain) might try France next! I can't quite make out the details on the photo he provided...
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Re: '97 boxer leaking gearbox end cap.
As I posted further up the page....
Here's a better pic:
That's doesn't look exactly like your box; as there is no drain plug in the end, but it's got the right no of bolts (7) in it.
You could try messaging member citroenXM (Paul) - he's got a large stash of XM spares; but don't know if he's got a suitable box, or would be willing to let an end cover go.
I reckon it will be weldable, I'm not that far from you, and could possibly have a go at it...
Here's a better pic:
That's doesn't look exactly like your box; as there is no drain plug in the end, but it's got the right no of bolts (7) in it.
You could try messaging member citroenXM (Paul) - he's got a large stash of XM spares; but don't know if he's got a suitable box, or would be willing to let an end cover go.
I reckon it will be weldable, I'm not that far from you, and could possibly have a go at it...
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Re: '97 boxer leaking gearbox end cap.
I just checked, has to be my cover - you were right first time Richard.
I'll ask Paul. There's an XM on ebay over in Newcastle but has a 2.1 and already is a few hundred quid.
The problem I have is getting the cover off without knacking those torx bolts and when I do keeping the gearbox dry - the motorhome is nearly ten foot high. There's a garage just down my road I will ask them to remove it/ weld it and keep the vehicle under cover because I have a feeling it will fall to bits at the first sign of a spanner!
Apparently welding things that have spent a long time coated in oil is troublesome although I've just watched a guy on youtube doing a tig repair on a hydraulic line and making a final pass with stainless to reduce porosity.
I'll ask Paul. There's an XM on ebay over in Newcastle but has a 2.1 and already is a few hundred quid.
The problem I have is getting the cover off without knacking those torx bolts and when I do keeping the gearbox dry - the motorhome is nearly ten foot high. There's a garage just down my road I will ask them to remove it/ weld it and keep the vehicle under cover because I have a feeling it will fall to bits at the first sign of a spanner!
Apparently welding things that have spent a long time coated in oil is troublesome although I've just watched a guy on youtube doing a tig repair on a hydraulic line and making a final pass with stainless to reduce porosity.