405: Major Works

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Re: 405: Major Works

Post by ekjdm14 » 03 Dec 2019, 14:42

Can't tell from the video but which terminals are you bridging? Intuitively one would bridge the 2 large ones but this will give the issue you have here since it only powers up the motor but doesn't "throw" the solenoid out.

Way to do it is the battery side large terminal (permanent +) to the small terminal that the signal wire goes to. It's possible the solenoid is sticking but as you've moved the pinion out by hand I wouldn't think so.

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Re: 405: Major Works

Post by xantia_v6 » 03 Dec 2019, 17:09

Are you shorting to the small terminal on the solenoid?

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Re: 405: Major Works

Post by Pug_XUD_KeenAmateur » 03 Dec 2019, 17:14

I think you've hit the nail on the head there ekjdm. Another look at the Starter clearly demonstrates there's a small connection I'd previously overlooked. So big Thank You :-D
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I was about to pack up for the day when I read it so I didn't get a chance to 'test the theory' but I'm confident it'll work next time with a power supply to the little connector.

Today I've also learnt that I should've gone with my initial instinct to put the 'Lifting Eye' on my makeshift Spreader Bar as close as possible to the left side lifting
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I might've over-engineered it a bit
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and what can happen if you try to force a Hose onto a plastic fitting, oops! I'd intended to mock up the Cooling system mods. The other engine will provide a replacement
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Doing my best not to panic about the worsening of the car's issues and it potentially being out of use while I faff. The news that a Timing Chain Kit for a Micra K13 is a whopping £600 in parts alone only adds to my resolve not to go modern anytime, ever.

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Re: 405: Major Works

Post by Pug_XUD_KeenAmateur » 03 Dec 2019, 17:16

oh and I see that Chris has answered also. Thanks likewise, no, I wasn't ! :dunce:

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Re: 405: Major Works

Post by NewcastleFalcon » 03 Dec 2019, 22:11

Pug_XUD_KeenAmateur wrote:
03 Dec 2019, 17:14
The news that a Timing Chain Kit for a Micra K13 is a whopping £600 in parts alone only adds to my resolve not to go modern anytime, ever.
Sound outrageous. Is it some exotic K13? £73.99 for this kit from Febi Bilstein

https://www.cartech-one.co.uk/en/search ... ming-chain

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Re: 405: Major Works

Post by doctle » 03 Dec 2019, 22:37

£600 is about €700 here you could buy at least a brace of Micras for that

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Re: 405: Major Works

Post by Pug_XUD_KeenAmateur » 03 Dec 2019, 23:32

I thought that too. I'm told that you have to buy the Timing Chain and Cogs separately hence the outrageous cost. Crossed my mind that maybe my bicycle chain 'd fit !

It only cost her £1,500 two years ago so its going to be sold, either private or Auction. I haven't done my research yet, but when I looked ages ago good ones were 3 grand or more so I'm hoping it'll make about £800.

Did get quotes for a replacement s/h engine (£300 ish), but with the clutch and labour n all that, its North of a Grand so its not happening. Would you believe none of the Breakers I spoke to could provide proof of claimed low mileage !! It'd be so easy, but seemingly no, they didn't bother.

If anyone's interested its an 11 plate, with 105k on it and its the high spec 'Accenta' with AC and various Toys. Currently owner is 83 years old, previous was a Priest; no kidding! On the logbook. Various scuffs & scrapes and Engine Management Light On (believed re Timing Chain) + very little clutch.

Similarly, if anyone's got a car for sale, we're looking to spend not more than £1k on ideally a 3 door Hatch (nice big doors, she doesn't bend so well these days), Light Clutch ideally Hydraulic, Petrol preferred in a bright colour, ideally yellow. I'd buy a Saxo / 106 or ZX if I thought I could persuade her (and find a good one!), but that's unlikely.

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Re: 405: Major Works

Post by Pug_XUD_KeenAmateur » 05 Dec 2019, 13:33

this is a bit all over the place, coz once again I've changed 'direction' for the moment. I've not made any attempt to power up the Starter Solenoid yet, instead it became more urgent to have the car useable following my comment re
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...I don't think it appreciated the long run ...the Gauge demonstrated just how quickly it can sprint from normal to 100c + so things have got more urgent
it did similarly, but to a worse extent, when I took the car out a day or two later, and I wasn't too surprised to find that at about 2miles out, driving on clear 'becoming rural' roads, the Temp Gauge made very quick progress from cold to almost 110c and waivered around 90c to 105c (far too hot for a 405) with not even a wisp of warm air, on a very cold night; from the Heater until I could 'swap' to MiL's Micra 5miles hence, to complete my journey; it thankfully taking me past her home*.

A bit of thought suggested to me that my 'pin prick' bodge in the Bypass Hose was no longer sufficiently venting the Air created by the weeping HG so I needed to come up with something more effective....

I'm going to leave it at that for the moment, as I've not even transferred the photos of the fix to my PC yet, I'm aware this is all becoming very confusing, hence a reasonably short post is in order.

Its also daylight hours as I write, so I can be getting on with further car works; a bit cold, but needs must.

*We were just beaten to a yellow Kia Picanto to replace the Micra, finding it sold when we arrived un-announced at a local Dealer's premises. There's about 5 yellow cars within 'range' at the moment, but only one other has an MOT History I consider acceptable, and that's a Vauxhall; so its out of the question.

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Re: 405: Major Works

Post by Pug_XUD_KeenAmateur » Yesterday, 21:18

a quick addendum to the previous post, showing 'the latest bodge'

The Bleed Screw is back in its rightful place on the Bypass Hose and the original Header Tank is plumbed 'in line' with it. I'd anticipated that I'd need to run it with the top off, but it seems to be OK, and is running at maximum of this shown temp (there's no stat) with slightly better than tepid air out of the Heater.

The leaky rad (I have a new one) might be relieving any excess pressure, but its a fix for the moment. Here's to a successful 60mile round trip tomorrow.
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PS: I wasn't being over-fussy was I, rejecting a prospective car purchase for a momentary Timing Chain rattle when started cold? Lasted about 2 seconds. A Toyota Yaris 1.0 VVTi