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Sorry chaps but me and the C5 have parted company and I am now using a rather nice 56 plate Toyota Prius T4 as my daily drive. I realised that £700 for tax and insurance is a no no and I needed something easier on the wallet. The Prius was bought locally and has just turned 60k so low miles and one owner. After one week driving it is averaging 58mpg against 28mpg (on a good day) for the C5 and £10/year road tax. Insurance appears to be similar to the C5 but I will shop round next year as the owners club also have an insurance scheme.

It's lovely to drive now I've sussed the start up procedure and is very quiet on the road, the main noise being tyres. I wouldn't describe it as a fast car although 0-60 is advertised as 11 seconds. I find it proceeds at a stately pace! :rofl2: I haven't mastered the art of rapid acceleration yet and joining the motorway from a slip road is slightly worrying to say the least but once upto speed it will cruise at 60 all day long. I found the easiest way to pick up speed is to progressively press the pedal down, stamp on the pedal and there is mucho noise but not mucho go, it's weird like a crazily slipping clutch but reading the technical stuff it doesn't have a gearbox as such just some sort of set up between two electric motors (I think!). It's very comfy to sit in and drive although at first I found the large central box/armrest thing between the seats was very obtrusive but I haven't really noticed it for the last day or two. Steering is very direct, like the original Mini and it has a very tight turning circle.

The heating controls are something else being multi multi multi adjustable, but the annoying thing for me is it's all touchscreen. I nearly ran up the kerb last night messing about. I'm also not sure if the heating comes just from the engine or electrically as some people appear to suggest but it takes a while to warm up in this cold weather. Once warm though it does a good job of controlling the temperature.
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I do still have the BX and I'm looking forward to getting the cambelt done as soon as the weather warms up so I can get out and about.
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I never wanted a Prius but thanks for spelling out why BUT chacun son goût!
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Will be very interesting to find out what percentage of your journeys are done on battery, with the petrol engine not running.
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I'll be interested too on all aspects of the car, they look cheap enough now second hand even with quite low mileages.
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Life of battery module (which is Panasonic) reckoned to be 3 years, according to Toyota main dealer here.
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white exec wrote: 28 Feb 2018, 18:37 Life of battery module (which is Panasonic) reckoned to be 3 years, according to Toyota main dealer here.


He's talking out of his arse. I really can't be arsed to explain why. Google will tell you how often these batteries fail..
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demag wrote: 27 Feb 2018, 16:52 Sorry chaps but me and the C5 have parted company and I am now using a rather nice 56 plate Toyota Prius T4 as my daily drive. I realised that £700 for tax and insurance is a no no and I needed something easier on the wallet. The Prius was bought locally and has just turned 60k so low miles and one owner. After one week driving it is averaging 58mpg against 28mpg (on a good day) for the C5 and £10/year road tax. Insurance appears to be similar to the C5 but I will shop round next year as the owners club also have an insurance scheme.

It's lovely to drive now I've sussed the start up procedure and is very quiet on the road, the main noise being tyres. I wouldn't describe it as a fast car although 0-60 is advertised as 11 seconds. I find it proceeds at a stately pace! :rofl2:


Is it a 1.8 or 1.5? I'm curious about these as well..
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Curious? Yes! Like, about why do they exist.
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Michel wrote: 28 Feb 2018, 19:05 He's talking out of his arse. I really can't be arsed to explain why.
Mike, I can well do without this offensive language. Please either make your point in polite terms, or not at all.
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white exec wrote: 28 Feb 2018, 20:34
Michel wrote: 28 Feb 2018, 19:05 He's talking out of his arse. I really can't be arsed to explain why.
Mike, I can well do without this offensive language. Please either make your point in polite terms, or not at all.


No. Sorry. If you come out with nonsense such as that, expect to be told. The point has been made many times on here and elsewhere that there is no issue with Prius batteries.
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I don't mind being told. It's just the language that I object to.
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It's the 1.5, car is the Gen 2 mid range T4. Yes agreed there has been a lot of rubbish spoken about the batteries. The usual lifespan is the same as the car and there are huge numbers of them here running to two and three hundred thousand miles on the original battery. Obviously there are failures but in reality very few. For a main dealer to say they last three years, he's either lying or not familiar with the model.
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demag wrote: 28 Feb 2018, 23:42 For a main dealer to say they last three years, he's either lying or not familiar with the model.


Or

He thinks PSA make the electrical connections in them :)
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Stickyfinger wrote: 01 Mar 2018, 01:00
demag wrote: 28 Feb 2018, 23:42 For a main dealer to say they last three years, he's either lying or not familiar with the model.

Or
He thinks PSA make the electrical connections in them :)

OR
He wants you to think, "oh my car is 2 1/2 years old, I can't afford a new battery next year, the dealer told me they are ££££'s, it will be cheaper/easier to by a new car!!", then the dealer gives you a lower trade in price because the battery will need changing next year he says! Customer 0, Dealer 1+
This is an interesting article.
https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/new ... /index.htm

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Diesel DPF's can fail early if used in town a lot, or like my last Citroen 150,000+
Clutches & Brake discs, can last 20,000 or more depends how the car is driven.
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