Groaning at low revs - Xantia HDi

simoncanfer · Post by **simoncanfer** » 24 Sep 2008, 20:46

At low revs under load, say below 1500rpm, I have a groaning noise which seems to come from the left hand side front wheel area. The wheel bearing has been changed which helped a bit. Any ideas?

Post by **RichardW** » 25 Sep 2008, 12:28

Mine used to do something similar I think - almost like it was labouring heavily. Cured it by replacing the air filter, and driving it hard for about 10k miles to get it properly loosened up

Nutcase · Post by **Nutcase** » 25 Sep 2008, 14:32

Hi,

When you say groaning, do you mean a steady tone or more of a grumble/chatter? If the latter, might be worth a look at the brake pads - I get this increasingly as the pads get worn down (Xsara HDI) and renewing the pads cures it . I've heard that modified pads are available which are supposed to deal with the issue, but haven't enquired at Citroen yet myself.

Regards
Greg

simoncanfer · Post by **simoncanfer** » 30 Sep 2008, 12:35

The noise is a grumble, and only at low revs. The higher the engine load the worse the noise gets.

Thanks - I'll take a look at the brakes as I've yet to check the front.

marsalek · Post by **marsalek** » 30 Sep 2008, 13:38

Hi, try pulling the handbrake a bit, when it is grumbling

When it disappears, it comes from the front brakes.

In the picture below, have look at the parts Nr. 7 (pivots) and C (a part of Nr. 4, floating brake calliper). Both then need changing

Karel

Credits xantik & service.citroen.com

DickieG · Post by **DickieG** » 30 Sep 2008, 15:26

The source of the noise is almost certainly due to the brake pads rattling around in the calipers. Citroën issued a "Info Rapid" (service bulletin in English) on this very subject. The remedy is to fit a brace (available from dealers) to the caliper that applies pressure to the caliper/pads to keep them quiet.

I've had to do this to both my HDi (110) and V6 as they are fitted with the same calipers. The previous owner of my HDi "Bernie" (remember him?) changed drop links, track rod ends etc trying to find the source of the rattle without success.

As "Marslek" states try pulling up the handbrake to see if the rattle goes away, if it does you need to fit the brace kit. I'll try to dig out the part number for the kit.

simoncanfer · Post by **simoncanfer** » 01 Oct 2008, 10:11

Thanks, you're quite right - the noise goes when I pull the handbrake on!

Any help with part numbers would be great as my local dealers are less than helpful...

DickieG · Post by **DickieG** » 01 Oct 2008, 14:29

The part number for the kit is 4449.71, the price is a steep £44.03 for two pieces of bent tin

it does however stop the rattle

bernie · Post by **bernie** » 03 Oct 2008, 19:02

DickieG wrote:
I've had to do this to both my HDi (110) and V6 as they are fitted with the same calipers. The previous owner of my HDi "Bernie" (remember him?) changed drop links, track rod ends etc trying to find the source of the rattle without success.

.

And inner tie rods