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Postby meexi » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:30 pm

okay chaps thinking caps on my xantia has a problem with a draining battery it will go for months no problem but then it will be flat with no warning the only thing that is the same is that it is always wet so waters getting into something but does anyone know where?
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Postby jeremy » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:36 pm

There is a trunking crossing under the front of a Xantia which is notorious for filling with water and rotting the cables it contains. I wonder if this is the problem?

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Postby Peter.N. » Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:11 pm

How long does it take to go flat? If very quickly and there are no flames and smoke, check the glow plug relay. The best way to find the problem is to connect a meter in series with one of the battery connections (take the connector off and connect it to one meter lead and the other to the battery) On the 'Amps' range you should have no more than a few milliamps flowing with everything turned off, check it when wet and again when dry and see if there is any difference.
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Postby meexi » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:44 pm

eventually got it started drove it home 7 miles left it in garage over night and then tried it next morning started no problems. i thought that the windscreen leaking would only leak if it had been replaced and not properly sealed?

have not tried the ohms meter on it yet but will let you know.
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Postby meexi » Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:49 pm

still having problems something draining the battery very quickly.
peter.n how do you check the glowplug relay

i can charge the battery off the car put when i put it on the car it just drains it


please help!
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Postby admiral51 » Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:11 pm

shot in the dark i know but it has been known for the alternator to drain the charge out of the battery-unusual but it does happen

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Postby steelcityuk » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:57 am

If the plastic scuttle at the bottom of the windscreen isn't sealed correctly water just runs down the 'screen and in thru the heater air intake. Happened on my Xantia. I removed mine, cleaned up both surfaces and resealed with clear silicone.

Could you try pulling fuses with the ignition off to see which one sparks due to load? This could help narrow it down.

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Postby Sturdybloke » Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:27 pm

Ignition switch could be playing up. Happened on my Xantia when the old switch was playing up. Would drain the battery over 2 days or so

Turn everything off, take the key out. Engage the steering lock and in a dark area (like your garage) jiggle the locked steering wheel and look at the instrument binacle to see if any lights illuminate.
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Postby Peter.N. » Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:44 pm

If the battery goes flat in less than an hour say, the glow plug relay or something energising it could be the problem. Anything other than that would produce a great deal of heat probably resulting in smoke (if not flames) To check if it is the relay, connect a voltmeter between the glowplug terminals and earth with the battery disconnected, then connect the battery, if you havn't touched anything else there should be no voltage present, if there is around 11 volts the plugs are turned on. If nothing, try turning the ingnition switch to the glow plug position, you should then have a reading of about 11 volts, turn the switch off and the voltage should dissapear, if it doesn't, either the relay is sticking or the ignition switch faulty.

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Postby meexi » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:34 pm

quick update car has been starting fine for 4 days then one night flat battery i have resorted to disconnecting the battery every time i park it.

one thing i have noticed is that when i have been driving it the battery terminal is so hot that i burned my finger with it tonight that cant be right can it?
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Postby Peter.N. » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:49 pm

That would seem to indicate that there is a lot of current flowing into the battery, which would be the case if it had been run flat. Check that the connections are good - mind you they should be if you have been taking them on and off. How long have you been driving when you notice the hot terminals?
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Postby meexi » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:10 am

just been driving it for two days looks like i will have to check the battery wiring
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Postby Peter.N. » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:39 am

I meant, how long had the battery been charging when you noticed that the terminals were hot? Just on that trip.
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Postby meexi » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:44 am

7 miles from work to home
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Postby Peter.N. » Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:08 am

That could be due to the alternator replacing the energy that was drained when it was left standing, if the battery was nearly flat it would be charging initially at about 80 amps and would drop to about 10 or 15. If you have a multimeter, a cheap one will do if its accurate, connect it to a 12 volt supply inside the car so that you can monitor it.. You should have around 14 volts when the engine is running, and if nothing is draining it when you stop, it should be just over 12 volts. If you see it drop below 12v, or say 13v when you are driving, something will be draining the battery. Try that and let us know the results.
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